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03-11-2003, 06:28 PM
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W123 larger brakes?
Hi all - can you advise the options here ? I am looking at a stock 230e UK 1983 with discs all round.
Am looking to the brake department for more assured braking from shall we say "motorway" speeds? I am happy to replace all the calipers and rotors for something more assured. Of course *not racing spec*, please!! What are the options from MB, and then aftermarket ? Are W126 brakes better / bigger / compatible? Just a thought. thanks in advance
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>Joe http://www.bonnemay.co.uk/pics/W123_48.gif 1984 W123 230E Saloon/Sedan! (82k miles - Ice Blue as new) 1985 W123 230TE (96K miles - stinkingly nice!) 1995 W124 E320 Wagon (130k miles) Future projects: Sportline Suspension W124, W123 TE restoration, A/C, cruise & powered seats retrofit! >Based in the UK! 
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#2
03-11-2003, 11:05 PM
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Umm, get w126 300SDL or 560SEL or 560SEC brakes, it has to be the 6 cyl diesel to get the same brakes as the 560 SEL.
Thats what Im going to do when I get some time. They stop much better, especially with new lines, etc.
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Current Stable: 1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey. Former Mercedes in the Stable: 1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now) 1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold 1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold 1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold 1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold 1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020) 1992 500E 156k mi sold etc.
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03-12-2003, 05:20 AM
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not sure?
Not sure what you mean by "it has to be the 6 cyl diesel to get the same brakes as the 560 SEL." Do you refer to *my car* needing to be the 6 cyl diesel?
I have a petrol powered 230E, do we know what brakes fit it from the W126, I assume from what you say the 560SEC and 300SDL will fit. Will brakes from 280SE etc fit this W123 do we know? thanks!
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>Joe http://www.bonnemay.co.uk/pics/W123_48.gif 1984 W123 230E Saloon/Sedan! (82k miles - Ice Blue as new) 1985 W123 230TE (96K miles - stinkingly nice!) 1995 W124 E320 Wagon (130k miles) Future projects: Sportline Suspension W124, W123 TE restoration, A/C, cruise & powered seats retrofit! >Based in the UK!
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#4
03-12-2003, 08:02 AM
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Joe,
I used 420SEL/560SEL brakes on my 1982 280E for years. You will need the rotors, calipers, & the brake backing plates. Direct bolt-on. They will stop that car.
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03-12-2003, 10:07 AM
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Thanks MBDOC, I'll hunt around and get the parts. Did you do all 4 or just the fronts? I like the idea of all 4....
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>Joe http://www.bonnemay.co.uk/pics/W123_48.gif 1984 W123 230E Saloon/Sedan! (82k miles - Ice Blue as new) 1985 W123 230TE (96K miles - stinkingly nice!) 1995 W124 E320 Wagon (130k miles) Future projects: Sportline Suspension W124, W123 TE restoration, A/C, cruise & powered seats retrofit! >Based in the UK!
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03-12-2003, 12:07 PM
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Im talking 86 87 300SDL with the 603 engine
the early models are 300sd which are 617 engine like the 300cd or wahtever.
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Current Stable: 1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey. Former Mercedes in the Stable: 1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now) 1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold 1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold 1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold 1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold 1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020) 1992 500E 156k mi sold etc.
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03-12-2003, 04:14 PM
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ah ok - cheers for that - I'll have a hunt and look around.
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>Joe http://www.bonnemay.co.uk/pics/W123_48.gif 1984 W123 230E Saloon/Sedan! (82k miles - Ice Blue as new) 1985 W123 230TE (96K miles - stinkingly nice!) 1995 W124 E320 Wagon (130k miles) Future projects: Sportline Suspension W124, W123 TE restoration, A/C, cruise & powered seats retrofit! >Based in the UK!
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#8
03-12-2003, 05:39 PM
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Just the fronts, the rears already are the same as the W126 chassis.
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03-17-2003, 12:09 PM
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M.B.Doc, I have a 1983 300TD, will the 420SEL/560SEL brakes work on my ride? If so, what years? TIA
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96 Legacy LSi wagon 92 Mitsu Expo 95 525iT 1983 300TD clackclackclack sold 1972 Toyota Corolla wagon TE28 sold 1991 Galant VR4 pshhhhh non-op 1989 Montero RS pop's ride
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03-17-2003, 12:18 PM
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YES, That set-up from the W126 chassis will bolt on to the W123 chassis.
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator
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03-17-2003, 12:21 PM
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Thanks a lot Chief.
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96 Legacy LSi wagon 92 Mitsu Expo 95 525iT 1983 300TD clackclackclack sold 1972 Toyota Corolla wagon TE28 sold 1991 Galant VR4 pshhhhh non-op 1989 Montero RS pop's ride
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