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Has nothing to do with hurting. I could buy that car right now...would I? Not for 50k, maybe 25k, depends upon condition. I will normally only pay NADA wholesale value on any car I buy and only the AMG's actually have an increased value over a normal Mercedes. Trying to get your insurance company to cover you for 50k on a 30k book value car car is more of a challenge than it is worth (at least in my neck of the woods)
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I have watched on the forum people talking down about very fast mercedes, but everyone always talks them down. I think the reason is that their cars are slower, except the few that really know what they are capable of.
1993 500E, great shape, everything is perfect, and a car like that, you know no expense was spared. Every service was probably done. It is probably a more collectable model than a regular 500E because it had the Renntech mods done to it a while back, Renntech doesn't seem to care about old cars anymore, at least thats what they told me when I called in, so getting your car to renntech specs would cost far more than just buying this car. Just ask run.exe about how much renntech and brabus charge to get him up to 6.0L, not even counting the brakes, bbs wheels, upgraded subframe, diff, and tranny. Sweet car, I just dont have the money for it right now.
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I like it...
I have a '92 500e with a few "cheap" Renntech mods. It's got 72K on the meter. I bought it "blind" on e-bay and have spent a few $K on maint, etc. I have had it a couple years and I figure it has cost me less per mile than a new clk coupe. I know it's not an investment - I'd be lucky to get 18K for it if I sold it today. But, hell, I lost more of cisco and had no fun at all doing that. Now that "600" - that would be cheaper than my Lucent!
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"......that would be cheaper than my Lucent!
sigh......Lucent is the reason I am not driving a 2003 MB E55........
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Check out the auction now.
It has 6 days left, and the bidding is already up to $45,000. This car is going to go for some big money.
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I have seen other Renntech MB's in the Dupont registry and on Autotrader that were advertised for big money, similar to this car and they never sold, lower milage prime examples even.
A 94 C280 in my area had a Renntech 3.6l conversion, exhaust and a 6 speed Getrag trans installed in it, figure the motor is 15k and the trans is 15k and another 2k or so for the exhaust work. Low miles as well, around 30k or so, his asking price was 25 thousand. No one bought it. According to Renntech, this was one of only two conversions that they did. Good for the seller if he can reach the 50k mark on this car, don't get me wrong, I like it, but if I were to drop another 50k on a car, it wouldn't be that one. |
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Greetings
It is undoubtly a unique enthusiast's car that is also an elite- no joke-MB street car...its worth whatever someone will pay for it now...matched to whatever the current owner will sell it for... It is definitely a bad ass W124. nonetheless -fad |
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Something wrong with eBay ...
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Current bid: US $30,100.00 (Reserve not met) Estimate your monthly payment Time left: 6 days 9 hours 10-day listing Ends Aug-15-03 07:49:40 PDT History: 28 bids (US $100.00 starting bid) High bidder: germanparts( 688)
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just keep this in mind ...
Is the expected price (~$50k) for a 10 year old car in great condition worth it? The market will dictate the price. Is $80k+ for a 70's 280SE Cabriolet worth the price - must be because that's what it sells for. My point is that age of a car is not a major factor. The W124.036 is hand built folks. Today, that is almost unheard of. Sure the W211 E55 could spank the W124 500E/E500/E600 in speed, quickness and handling, but at the end of the day, which car would the true enthusist want? I'd say the Velvet Hammer tuned by a decendent and competitor of the Hammermeister.
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Let's be nice!
Boy, what is with some of you guys?? Taking shots at a car that you've never seen?? I, for one, am pretty sure the tranny is solid. After all, it only has a few thousand miles on it (MBZ rebuilt unit - remember, no expense was spared keeping this car perfect).
Also, what makes anyone think a W210 E55 with a blower would "wax the car" in every respect? I for one prefer the custom body of a 500E/E500 vs an E55, which looks almost exactly like a 300D. As to track handling, I'd think the W124 car would measure up better-remember, full RennTech suspension vs a soft stock setup. In any case, before you take shots at someone's car (that is invariably MUCH faster that your car:p), at least get all the facts. And don't EVER try to beat up on one of our 500E brothers!
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I've driven that car and and it is much faster than an old E55, which I have also driven.
I've not driven the new one, but I think with only 20-40 hp less in a car that weighs 400lbs less I think the Renntech would be quicker. On the track I don't think there would be anything in it, the Renntech is just plain quicker. The transmission on the E55 would be a big gain though. Most of the depreciation is out of this car, you can't say that for an E55, old or new. This is a limited edition super sedan that will always have an attraction to certain people. Keep the mileage reasonable and keep the condition high and the value will stay.
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It will be quicker than a stock E55 but there is no way in hell it would even come close to the new supercharged E55's or even a Kleeman conversion of an older E55 which has something like 500 - 550 hp and a torque curve that is about as flat as can be. The new E55's have a BS hp rating and are really around 500 hp according to MB Autowerks who has dynoed both the new S55 and the new E55. I don't know if I'd even believe the Renntech hp unless I strapped it to a dyno first.
The E600 may be quicker on the track than the older E55.....and that is a big maybe. The suspension of the older E55 and the new E55 are very nice and the combination of ESP and traction contol can make a good driver out of anyone. With a professional driver, that E600 should be a little quicker around the course but I'd bet not by much. I think the new E55 would smack the E600 around with the extra 60 to 80 hp difference and refined suspension. Maybe that E600 is something really special.....I don't know? I do know that $50,000 is waaaaay too much for the age and mileage of that car. I'm surprised that is has reached $30,100 but it may have been run-up by some friends of the owner. |
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