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Old 09-15-2004, 05:20 PM
timetodine
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Unhappy Outside air sensor, 87 560sl

Can anyone tell me and help me diagnose my outside air temperature system. When the ignition is off the indicator is at low temp. When I start the engine the indicator does a 300 degree and swings to the hot side. I do not know where to begin and I can find nothing in any of the manuals I have. Thanks in advance. VLP

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Old 09-15-2004, 10:06 PM
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This circuit is just a milliammeter with a thermistor mounted outside the licence plate. A thermistor is a resistor deliberately designed to be temperature sensitive. The one on the licence plate is supposed to get lower resistance with higher temperatures. Sounds like yours is shorted - no resistance, therefore really hot indication (max current).

Why do I know something about this? My needle wouldn't move off of about 72 degrees. The thermistors can, and do, go bad. For $50-60, you can get a cable assembly with the thermistor on the end. The licence plate part is easy. The wiring part is a PITA. Some people cut off the bad thermistor, cut up their brand new assembly, and solder the new thermistor part on the old cable assy so that they don't have to replace all the wiring to the gauge.

Thermistors all have different resistances at a given temperature AND sensitivity curves. I tried to solder on one from radio shack but it was clearly not right in either resistance at a given temperature. So I bought a bunch of different types from an electroncs supply place. I found two wired in parallel that together SEEM to be fairly accurate between 70-95 degrees. I don't know how it will do in colder temperatures but I will find out! If I succeed, this will be a lot cheaper than the MB part!
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Old 09-16-2004, 01:33 AM
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Thanks Strife. After I posted this question I looked at some rather old stuff and a guest had said the same thing and he had numbers of two negative thermistors that would would work. He also suggested temporarily replacing the thermistor with a 3000 ohm resistor. That would check the circuit and he thought the thermistor would cost about $5.00 at an electronics store. If the rain from Ivan goes away I may try it and will let all know from this post.

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