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Old 08-19-2007, 06:45 PM
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I've found a SL600

After loosing out on a 560SL last week and searching hi and low for an alternative vehicle with history at a reasonable price, I'm coming to the conclusion I will never own a 560SL.

I had a drive of a 2001 SL600 yesterday and have fallen for it. I appreciate it is a completely different car, but after driving the V12 yesterday, I am prepared to walk away from a classic and buy a 2001 classic of the future

Does anyone have any stories, good or bad they can share about a SL600? I would like to know what I'm letting myself in for!
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:34 PM
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Be afraid,,, be very afraid.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:43 PM
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Hi Pete,

I understand the servicing costs are higher than a SL500, but the thing I forgot to mention is this SL comes with an extended Mercedes Warranty.

What's there to be afraid of?
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Old 08-19-2007, 09:19 PM
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They are awesome cars. I have one, and it been the most trouble free out of all the Mercedes I have owned.


Its a great, powerful car. Fun to drive. Enough power to get you in trouble, enough power to get you out of trouble.
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Old 08-19-2007, 09:30 PM
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They are awesome cars. I have one, and it been the most trouble free out of all the Mercedes I have owned.


Its a great, powerful car. Fun to drive. Enough power to get you in trouble, enough power to get you out of trouble.
What he said.
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:21 PM
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What's to be afraid of is two things:

1 - The BS things the starmark doesn't cover (look closely at the fine print)

2 - Post starmark when you're on the hook.

Digest that and confidently know your future costs and you'll be all set for an SL, or any Mercedes, for that matter.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:13 AM
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I would suggest doing some research on this board about the SL600. I am not sure if the year you are looking at has ADS, but I hear if it doesn't have a problem it will. And maintenance costs on the SL600 are much more than the SL500. I also read that many mechanics shy away from the SL600. I recently bought some AMG rims from a guy that owned a SL600 and he told me the same thing, lots of $$ for repairs. He put the stock rims back on it, traded the SL600 in and sold the AMG's with tires to me at a great price. I don't want to scare you off, but just search around a bit on the SL600 and maintenance costs. I would have loved to own one but after considering what I was told would be inevitable I settled for a SL500, a great car with no problems at all after almost 1 year. Just my two cents.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:46 AM
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Yeah, I have enough expensive things to maintain already. I'd be happy to have an SL500.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:06 AM
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Being an owner of an SL600, I can speak from experience - they are expensive cars to keep running well. Everything from oil changes (that's 11 quarts of synthetic Mobil 1 oil) to spark plugs (there's 12 of 'em). MB parts in general are expensive, but it seems to me - subjective, perhaps - that the SL600 are the most expensive.

ADS is finicky and will be expensive to repair. Soft top mechanism issues are over-played, but unless you are willing to make repairs yourself, they will be expensive when the time comes. Electro-mechanical engine controls (i.e.: variable valve timing) can be problematic and very expensive to repair - sometimes, quite difficult to properly diagnose, even with a warranty.

The SL600 is a fairly complex vehicle, having a lot of technology packed into a smaller frame. Things are tougher to get to, so labor costs are higher. Yes, there may be a warranty now, but at some point in the future there will not be. You must plan accordingly.

The car is powerful and has the potential to get the driver into real trouble. But it can also be tame if you drive reasonably. But then, the car may not be as fun to drive. If the convertible aspect thrills you the most, get an SL500 instead – only a little less power and cheaper to maintain. Many SL-neophytes do not realize this.

I've owned my SL600 for years and it has been a money pit for most of that time. Bought it very cheap, knew what I was buying, so I do not complain about it. Everything mentioned by previous folks is true. The car has a cult-like following by those of us who really love the SL600. However, in order to keep your SL600 in top condition, it will be a steady drain on your wallet.

Just looking for a convertible? Get an SL500 (R129 model). Want really classic lines in a convertible? Get a late-model 560SL (R107 model). If you are unsure of the difference between R107 and R129, do not get an SL600 – look for a good SL500. Regardless of how you go, good luck! Any SL, properly maintained, is pure joy to own and drive.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:38 PM
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Looked for a 600

I can say that I was looking at a 600 last year before I bought my 500. Seems that repairs can really get you.
More importantly if you are looking at the 600 for the power, zero to 60 is only slightly better than the 500 due to the extra weight of the V12. Handling is also better in the 500 due to weight distribution imho.
More importantly don't make a quick decision on these cars.
It is hard not to do when you get the "fever", but that are lots of good 500 and 600's out there, if you know what you are looking for.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:59 AM
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Only replys you are getting are from 500 owners...
If I was a member of the forum prior to buying my 600 I would've never done it.
I am happy with the car...front brake pads $56 rear $46,oil filter $16,mobil1 11.5x$7 $84,other than that ......well read my sugnature
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:01 AM
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They are awesome cars. I have one, and it been the most trouble free out of all the Mercedes I have owned.


Its a great, powerful car. Fun to drive. Enough power to get you in trouble, enough power to get you out of trouble.
This is what you should look for when you look for 600.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:27 AM
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Oh contraire…

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Only replys you are getting are from 500 owners...
Please read my post (#9 above). As an owner of an SL600, I point out that there is a dark side to the model - but that it also can be an awesome car to drive. However as a first-time SL, I would not necessarily recommend it. Personally, I absolutely love my SL600 and would have nothing else. When the day comes that I have to sell my cars, the SL600 will be the last to go. But I had MB, specifically SL, experience for years before acquiring the SL600.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:57 PM
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Please read my post (#9 above). As an owner of an SL600, I point out that there is a dark side to the model - but that it also can be an awesome car to drive. However as a first-time SL, I would not necessarily recommend it. Personally, I absolutely love my SL600 and would have nothing else. When the day comes that I have to sell my cars, the SL600 will be the last to go. But I had MB, specifically SL, experience for years before acquiring the SL600.
Dude your post #9 talks about oil 9 vs 11.5 spark plugs 8 vs 12 and soft top-same,there is no much difference between the two (500 and 600) in there,ADS-how many cars failed?2%? or less...where is the dark side in there.
When you talk about the 600 be more specific so your post gets the attention it deserves.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:40 AM
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Dude your post #9 talks about oil 9 vs 11.5 spark plugs 8 vs 12 and soft top-same,there is no much difference between the two (500 and 600) in there,ADS-how many cars failed?2%? or less...where is the dark side in there.
When you talk about the 600 be more specific so your post gets the attention it deserves.
First, I currently own both an SL500 and an SL600. I have also owned an R107 ('73 450SL). Thus, I have direct experience comparing SL models from an ownership perspective.

If one doesn't generalize as a starting point, the post would be a mile long. At least I touched on some detail. I have posted a number of SL600 issues on this board and others, seeking advice on various issues. If interested, simply search by my name. And yes, there is a dark side to the SL600 - when things break, repairs can be costly. Fortunately for you, your SL600 has been trouble-free. But SL600 neophytes do not consider the huge oil sump that needs to be filled at oil changes, labor costs for a tune-up (in the event they prefer to have the work done by someone else), or MB shop repair for the model.

As for soft top issues, the R107 (560SL) is a manual top, not hydropneumatic (as MB calls it) like the R129. So there are a whole new bunch of different problems that *can* occur, as compared to the R107.

ADS - I struggled with an intermittent electrical problem in my '96 SL600 for well over a year. The problem was predictable, but elusive as simply restarting the car would 'clear' the fault. Great ride, then the ADS Fault Light would illuminate and the car rode like a tank. Finally traced the bugger to a temperamental body acceleration sensor. Detailed enough? How many cars this effects? Not a clue. But *my* experience with the SL600 is that it is an expensive car to own. I do believe I put in a disclaimer stating that my car had a number of problems from the on-set.

The original poster was not looking for absolute specifics but people's opinion on the model. I have my opinion; you have yours. Considering Lord Hemming had been long searching for an R107, it would be prudent to make simple comparisons as opposed to overwhelm the person with details. If Lord Hemming, or anyone, wanted clarification of any aspect, a simple follow-up question would have provided whatever detail desired. I believe Lord Hemming did just that regarding a question about warranty.

Personally, I love my SL600. But it *can* be a problematic vehicle on occasion. I never said it *was* a problematic vehicle. You, obviously, have had the other extreme - a trouble-free vehicle. Perhaps you should read 600 posts more carefully so your responses get the proper perspective they deserve. You might also want to proofread before hitting ‘Submit’. Yes, I know a lot (not everything) about MB’s, just read my signature. That represents only 50% of the MB’s I’ve owned.
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