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deportes 04-10-2013 08:58 AM

1983 380sl WTF.. Lower control arm
 
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Glad I had exited the freeway when it broke off.

Deltacom 04-10-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by deportes (Post 3128528)
Glad I had exited the freeway when it broke off.

Hi Juan,

You are a very lucky individual. It could have been catastrophic!!

Take several pictures of the broken subframe and (ideally) get a letter from a lawyer to send to MB USA. They are obliged to replace your subframe free of charge. See this information.

deportes 04-10-2013 12:29 PM

Thank you Deltacom, great compilation of information that will help me get to MB and hopefully they will fix it.

rs899 04-10-2013 12:45 PM

The recall did not cover the 380SL- only the 450SL. Can't hurt to try though.

euroamg 04-11-2013 10:47 AM

Common problems on the sl's. Sometimes its the a arm that rust off. No drainage holes on it. Water puddles on the actual a arm.

Deltacom 04-11-2013 12:53 PM

Hi Juan and all,

Here are a couple of letters posted by a member in another forum, issued by MB-USA that might assist you to “persuade” MB dealers to replace your subframe (if broken) or to reinforce it with gussets to prevent breakage. Some MB owners and members of forums managed to have it fix or replaced.
It certainly is worth it to persist.


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rowdie 04-11-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by euroamg (Post 3129314)
Common problems on the sl's. Sometimes its the a arm that rust off. No drainage holes on it. Water puddles on the actual a arm.

I have never seen this on the front of a 107.
Rust is not what causes the failure on the '71-'85 107.

deportes 04-11-2013 03:28 PM

This car inquestion has no rust, it's a California car that has never been out of state, It was ownde by my brother since new. It's oily but not rusty.
I was looking at craigslist in the SFco bay area and there are about 10 380sl for sale. How many are in the country that will eventually break off?
All 380sl owners should get together and demand more from MBUSA.
I feel very lucky :):):)that I wasn't hurt but the potential for any other person that has one of this models is great, specially now that this cars are 30 or so years old.:mad::mad:

97 SL320 04-11-2013 05:11 PM

Need more information.

How many miles?

Better pictures of the break from both sides.

Strife 04-11-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rowdie (Post 3129390)
I have never seen this on the front of a 107.
Rust is not what causes the failure on the '71-'85 107.

SUPPOSEDLY, using the wheels as curb feelers (which I'm sure than none of us do, but previous owners, who knows) can contribute to this.

I have a set of the gussets (not CHEAP these days, they ought to be FREE with proof of ownership) but don't have the facilities to weld them on from underneath. I may have someone else do it.

JimFreeh 04-17-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rowdie (Post 3129390)
I have never seen this on the front of a 107.
Rust is not what causes the failure on the '71-'85 107.


It's not rust, it's fatigue.
Mine let go on the left side, and it was a Phoenix, AZ car.

Jim

rowdie 04-17-2013 08:49 PM

I was brief in that response to a previous post that it could be rust. Thus my response that I had never seen this on the front. This is a known fault in the 107 from 1971 first production until 9/85 when the new front axle carrier was introduced.

I have seen pictures of 107 rear lower arms that were rusted out. Off hand I do not remember what years were the stamped steel version that rusted.

JimFreeh 04-18-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rowdie (Post 3132612)
I was brief in that response to a previous post that it could be rust. Thus my response that I had never seen this on the front. This is a known fault in the 107 from 1971 first production until 9/85 when the new front axle carrier was introduced.

I have seen pictures of 107 rear lower arms that were rusted out. Off hand I do not remember what years were the stamped steel version that rusted.

Correct.

The rear trailing arms are the ones with the rust problem.

The rear suspension that was introduced in 1968 for the W114/W115 was carried over intact for the R107, the W123 and the W126. Some of the W126 cars came with forged alloy trailing arms. I've seen them on euro 500SEL and 560SELs. I would suspect that the R107s had forged arms on the similar engined cars.
FWIW, the R107 has the same front end subframe as the W114/W115, but for some reason, the W114/W115 does not have the torn control arm mount problem.

If it's the V-8's weight, then why did my M110 engined R107 have the problem?

I fixed mine by using a spare W114 subframe and welding on the factory reinforcement gussets.

Jim

deportes 04-18-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JimFreeh (Post 3132971)
Correct.

The rear trailing arms are the ones with the rust problem.

The rear suspension that was introduced in 1968 for the W114/W115 was carried over intact for the R107, the W123 and the W126. Some of the W126 cars came with forged alloy trailing arms. I've seen them on euro 500SEL and 560SELs. I would suspect that the R107s had forged arms on the similar engined cars.
FWIW, the R107 has the same front end subframe as the W114/W115, but for some reason, the W114/W115 does not have the torn control arm mount problem.

If it's the V-8's weight, then why did my M110 engined R107 have the problem?

I fixed mine by using a spare W114 subframe and welding on the factory reinforcement gussets.

Jim

Great info, i think there would be a lot more w114/115 in the pick and pull yard. What model is the w114/115, I mean 300 series? The pick and pull doesn't use the w114/5 I think. I was trying to find if there was any other model I could get the front end from other than the R107.
Thanks.

JimFreeh 04-19-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by deportes (Post 3133226)
Great info, i think there would be a lot more w114/115 in the pick and pull yard. What model is the w114/115, I mean 300 series? The pick and pull doesn't use the w114/5 I think. I was trying to find if there was any other model I could get the front end from other than the R107.
Thanks.

Subframe is the same. Only modification that needs to be made is to drill out two holes for motor mount access when used in the R107 chassis. The location is already stamped, but not drilled. Easy peasy.

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