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11-22-2002, 08:30 PM
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Re: Sorry Boss but
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I have seen a few 450 SL's priced above that, but either they are a time-warp / original / '73 model still in its original wrapper in an air-controlled, plastic bubble, negative vacuum chamber.
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11-23-2002, 02:14 AM
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well, due to the generally negative responses I've been getting, I'm not gonna sell my car because it wouldn't be worth it right now. Not to sound like an idiot or spoiled brat, but I guess I'm stuck with a 107. Kinda hoped I could get a bigger e-class or something but the parents said I could only get something if I got over 16K for the 450. In that case, since I'm keeping it, does anybody know how to get more than 13 mpg out of this car??? 'cause that's all I'm getting, and it's draining my money.
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11-23-2002, 02:45 PM
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Well, I'm glad your keeping the car.
To be honest with you, your car has depreciated about as much as it ever will, but it probably won't really ever go up much in value. There is little collector value in 107 SL's because of the large number produced. Your only hope in ever getting any appreciation is to have a rare '72-'73 model. But, on the positive side, you have a good, solid car that has proven to be a durable and reliable car, and will hold its value for as long as you own it. I'm looking forward to seeing you tomorrow morning in Mission Viejo.  
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#19
11-25-2002, 09:38 AM
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13mpg!
Get used to it. Antiquated carb technology and a 4k lb car with a V8, 13 is about it. Maybe 16-17 on highway and 14 around town if you are light with the right. My 560 Sec got 12-17 and yes that does suck. Now my wife's E420 gets 18-25 with 275hp, go figure.
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11-25-2002, 02:45 PM
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Re: 13mpg!
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And, anyone who was at the GTG, was the car as bad as you guys thought??
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11-25-2002, 03:02 PM
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The car was better than I thought.
The paint was original and in great shape. The dent on the right side drivers door is small, and can be removed by paying $75 to those paintless dent removal guys. The color of the center console was a little off and looks like the previous owner replaced it, but the dash and gauges, etc. were in really great shape. I have boldly stated that this is a car in the $8k-$12k range, and am fairly convinced it's a $12k car, maybe even a little more to the right buyer. Last, I'm sure the color wouldn't be described as red by MB. I've seen the red SL's, and the color is usually called signal red. This car is definitely a deep, dark red - very close to burgundy. Like I said, find one of those sites that decipher your VIN number, which will tell you everything about your car - the color code for your exterior and interior, including every single option the car came with when new.
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#22
11-25-2002, 03:04 PM
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I never owned a 450 but I assume it is the old style fuel injection which is basically a carb with injectors not TPI like the newer ones. if you open your hood and you have a round aircleaner and you have a carb looking thing on top of your manifold you have what is called throttle body injection which is basically an injected carb.......very antiquated.
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#23
11-25-2002, 03:59 PM
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Mercedes has never used a throttle-body injection setup in any of its models. The system used in the later 450s like 4NDELIT's is Bosch CIS.
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11-25-2002, 04:15 PM
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They may have never made a TPI but the system on my Dad's 300SE, My friend's 420SEL and my 560SEc is as close to a throttle body as they get. Far cry between them and the system on my 420E. just stating that they are not the sytems of today and although economy is better than a conventional carb, it aint much better.
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11-25-2002, 04:45 PM
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To the layman's eye, a CIS system may appear to be similar to a throttle-body system. But in fact it is very different and offers dramatic performance advantages. CIS is port injection with a dedicated injector for each cylinder. The intake manifold delivers only air. This is in contrast to carburetor and throttle-body systems where the intake manifold carries both fuel and air.
How significant is the performance difference? A W201 with carburetor produces just 90 hp, while the CIS model makes 122 hp! Zero-to-sixty times for the two cars are 13.2 and 10.5 seconds respectively. For anyone who is interested in learning more about Bosch fuel injection, I highly recommend Charles Probst's Bosch Fuel Injection & Engine Management.
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11-25-2002, 05:18 PM
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we are not trying to rain on your parade here. we are being realistic, your car is 22 years old. you could do a hell of a lot worse than a 107. be thankful for what you have. would you want a focus or cavalier or kia or hyundai? peter
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11-26-2002, 02:58 AM
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like I said... I'm not an idiot, I just think it's impractical for somebody who drives 60 miles a day to be driving a classic car with low miles that gets bad gas mileage. Not that I don't appreciate my car, but I think it would be better as somebody's weekend car instead of a main driver. As for a different car, I was thinking more along the lines of a 325i or 535i or E320, not a cavalier or kia or hyundai. I value safety as well as performance.
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12-10-2002, 12:04 AM
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free up airflow, increase HP and gas mileage... usually the muffler is the most constricting part of your airflow, and in bypassing it, you free up the flow. The only downside to this is that you may lose some lower end torque because you need backpressure for torque.
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12-10-2002, 12:15 AM
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isnt it the cat thats the most constricting part and losing the muffler gives it that riceburner/POS sound like you cant afford to fix your exhaust system in my oppinion
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