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Old 08-30-2015, 04:28 PM
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Need M 130 6 cylinder injected engine

I am in need of a "no issues" M 130 6 cyl. injected engine.

I would prefer one in a car that I can hear run. Driving would be a bonus.

I am located in PA. Prefer a car or engine in the northeast. Reasonably priced. I do have a trailer and can pick up.

Thanks in advance for your help

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Old 08-30-2015, 06:17 PM
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Mechanical injection: W113, W108/9, etc.

OR

D-Jetronic: W114

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Old 08-30-2015, 06:22 PM
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m130 engine

I have several, Im in Tucson...sorry no rust! kEITH 520-404-2875
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:57 PM
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Frank I am looking for the 280 mechanical injected SOHC 6 cyl from 68-72. M 130 engine family. Came in W108, 111 and 113 cars. Limited W 109 and I don't think ever in the 112.

To my knowledge never in the 114, 115, or 116 body cars. They were the twin cam.

Wish I was closer to Tuscon, but thanks
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:49 PM
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Frank I am looking for the 280 mechanical injected SOHC 6 cyl from 68-72. M 130 engine family. Came in W108, 111 and 113 cars. Limited W 109 and I don't think ever in the 112.

To my knowledge never in the 114, 115, or 116 body cars. They were the twin cam.

Wish I was closer to Tuscon, but thanks
M130.923, used in 250/250C (W114), 1970-72, both carbureted and with D-jetronic, although the D-jet is quite scarce.

The M110 for USA delivery began with the 1973 model year, in W114 & W116.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:27 PM
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M130.923, used in 250/250C (W114), 1970-72, both carbureted and with D-jetronic, although the D-jet is quite scarce.

The M110 for USA delivery began with the 1973 model year, in W114 & W116.
Were there really d-jet m130? The 1971 280se and 280sl were mechanical injection. I find it hard to believe that MB would do a d-jet for just one year before switching to the DOHC m110 (d-jet).
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:41 PM
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Were there really d-jet m130? The 1971 280se and 280sl were mechanical injection. I find it hard to believe that MB would do a d-jet for just one year before switching to the DOHC m110 (d-jet).
The "s" cars, as you indicate, were mechanically injected. W108 & W113.

The W114, while equipped with the M130 for 3 years, is not an "s" car, but was one for the proles.
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Old 09-08-2015, 01:32 PM
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M130.923, used in 250/250C (W114), 1970-72, both carbureted and with D-jetronic, although the D-jet is quite scarce.

The M110 for USA delivery began with the 1973 model year, in W114 & W116.
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Were there really d-jet m130? The 1971 280se and 280sl were mechanical injection. I find it hard to believe that MB would do a d-jet for just one year before switching to the DOHC m110 (d-jet).

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The "s" cars, as you indicate, were mechanically injected. W108 & W113.

The W114, while equipped with the M130 for 3 years, is not an "s" car, but was one for the proles.
It is interesting to note that the m130 was never injected in the w114 cars, but the 2.5 and m110 were both available in standard/euro (not North American) as injected in the w114 cars.

But to answer my question, I am pretty confident there was never a d-jet m130z.
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It is interesting to note that the m130 was never injected in the w114 cars, but the 2.5 and m110 were both available in standard/euro (not North American) as injected in the w114 cars.

But to answer my question, I am pretty confident there was never a d-jet m130z.
Open in front of me as this is being typed are two FSM wiring diagrams:

1) Model 250E/8 from Dec. 1968 to Dec. 1970. This diagram shows the complete D-jet system as applied to the M114 engine.

2) Model 250E/8 from Dec. 1970 to May 1972. This diagram shows the complete D-jet system as applied to the M130 engine.

Hence, the M130 engine was injected, via D-Jetronic injection, in the W114 chassis!
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:14 AM
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But to answer my question, I am pretty confident there was never a d-jet m130z.

It was euro only and you've probably never seen one, its hugely uncommon. But they exist.





We've gotten the OP wildly off topic. But anyway, maybe we all learned something about M130s.
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Old 09-09-2015, 07:17 PM
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Open in front of me as this is being typed are two FSM wiring diagrams:

1) Model 250E/8 from Dec. 1968 to Dec. 1970. This diagram shows the complete D-jet system as applied to the M114 engine.

2) Model 250E/8 from Dec. 1970 to May 1972. This diagram shows the complete D-jet system as applied to the M130 engine.

Hence, the M130 engine was injected, via D-Jetronic injection, in the W114 chassis!
Wow. All the information I could find showed there never was an injected m130 in the w114 at all.

The 2.5 engines confuse me even more. If a mechanically injected m130 from a pagoda or 280se is an m130, and the carbed (and even d-jet versions) are still m130, then why are different engine numbers for the m114, m108, and m129 (injected)??

The Wikipedia page and automobile-catalog.com show no injected m130 w114 cars, even though all other models have production counts. I wonder what the production numbers on the w114 d-jet SOHC cars were.
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Ok. I checked the EPC, and I see that the injected 2.5 liter 250ce (114.022) does appear to be a d-jet engine, but I couldn't find any references to any d-jet m130. I'm not sure this means anything, but there seems to be a lot of evidence of d-jet 2.5 250ce cars, but only the post above about the service manual and the picture above. The picture above doesn't seem to show any reason to be a 2.8 m130 instead of a 2.5 m114, does it?

Edit: these are the 114 models that show in the EPC for me:
114.005 230 (m180.954)
114.007 230.6 (m180.954)
114.008 230.6 (m180.954)
114.010 250:250 USA (m114.920)
114.011 250:250 USA (m130.923)
114.015 230 USA:230.6 (m189.954)
114.017 230.6 (m189.954)
114.021 250 C (m114.920)
114.022 250 CE (m114.980)
114.023 250 C:250 C USA (m130.923)
114.060 280:280 C USA (m110.921)
114.062 280 E (m110.981)
114.072 280 CE (m110.981)
114.073 280 C:280 C USA (m110.921)

^^ so after combing through all the w114, it seems that only the m114 2.5 was injected with d-jet. I assumed that it was a mechanical injection like the 280sl and 280se cars, but now I am wondering if that 2.5 was d-jet. No. It was a m129, not m114. So I assume the m114 d-jet was a line anomoly.

Also, if you look at automobile-catalog.com, you can see that all the "250 CE" are 2.5 liter engines from 1968 to 1972. So while the majority of the "250" were m130 after 1970, the injected one remained a 2.5 liter. So perhaps the wiring diagram above was a second generation of wiring for the m114 engine (not the m130).

So I'm sticking to my guns. I still don't believe there was a d-jet m130. I would be glad to be proven wrong. I am VERY glad to learn that the 250 CE was a d-jet car. I had no idea!
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Old 09-09-2015, 09:33 PM
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Bump for an edited thread above.
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So... Just the 2.5 w114 came in a d-jet, or both the 2.5 and the 2.8?

Thanks for teaching me about the d-jets of the m180 family. I really never knew they existed.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:37 AM
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I've only ever seen D-jet 250CEs, granted I've seen TWO, so that's hardly representative of anything. But that's what I've seen.

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