On tire rack they are about 125 each. The next one down is about 85 bucks. I would be using these scrictly for summer, as I have dedicated snow tires.

Are they really that much better?

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Eugene

10 E63 AMG
93 300te 4matic
07 BMW X3
14 Ford F-150 Fx2

Eugene, you have probably heard of the power of "M" ... Mercedes, Michelin and Mobil 1. I only run Michelin tires on our MB vehicles. The Primacy MXV4 are wonderful tires for ride and handling. It's a personal choice that you will have to make. Another person's opinion won't necessarily agree with yours.

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Fred Hoelzle

Eugene, Have you run Primacy's before? I agree they're rather pricey. Ever bot any take-offs? 4 Benzes over 29 years and only Michelins for me. They're alittle hard to find, but I buy alot of Michelin take-offs. They'll make your ride up and down 271 enjoyable despite all the potholes from the wonderful Winter we've had. I'm a fellow Buckeye in the capitol city. Fred's got it right. Hadn't heard about the 3 M's, but I like his idea. DJ

Sorry Eugene, got the wrong side of Cleveland, should have said while you're driving by the potholes on 90 or the Turnpike.

Close enough, I do a lot of appliance service, so I frequent all of the above. I bit the bullet and bought five new tires from tire rack. The spare is an original Pirelli, so I figured after 25 years, it's due.

My last set of tires have lasted me 6 or so years, so I guess if these last as long, it would be good value.

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Eugene

10 E63 AMG
93 300te 4matic
07 BMW X3
14 Ford F-150 Fx2

Were you riding on Michelins before your purchase of the Primacys? So this is what I have gathered over the years from peppering many a tire guy with questions about why Michelins ride better, especially on heavier cars like MB's......for what its worth. I'm told Michelin makes their tires with a more flexible sidewall. That flexible sidewall results in a alittle more give in the tire as it navigates the ups & downs of the road surface. In fact don't be surprised if after a few years & 10,000 or 20,000 miles, you start to see some wear on the sidewall and sometimes kind of a white mesh start to show thru. Happened to me, and I immediately went back to the tire shop and they said it wasn't indicative of a bad tire, but simply the way Michelins wear. I went and looked at the other Michelins on my other cars and same type of wear. Anyway, according to the tire guys, it's all about the stiffness of the sidewall as to the type of ride you'll get. There isn't any measurement for sidewall stiffness that I know of, do you? They also say tread patterns obviously vary from tire to tire an company to company, but there are only a few that really work and most manufacturers follow these classic tread patterns with Michelin being the best example. Hopefully one of those I90/Turnpike potholes won't cause you to use that new spare. But if one does, you'll be ready. Nice purchase and you're in for lots of smooth, road hugging driving. Do you live near the Lake in Lorain?

In all my years of running Michelin tires I have never seen wear on the sidewalls. To me that would signify underinflated tires.

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No, I actually live in lakewood, but my store is in Cleveland on Lorain ave.

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Eugene

10 E63 AMG
93 300te 4matic
07 BMW X3
14 Ford F-150 Fx2

"White mesh" sounds like serious tire wear or damage from rubbing on a curb or something

FWIW I have a Primacy PA3 winter runflat on my car and it vibrates and pulls, but it is worn on a side and might be missing a weight or two... it seems not fault of tire.

I swear by Michelin Primacy MXV4s. I use 205/65R15s on my car though, versus the standard 195s.

My experience with the Michelins is that the qualities the tires have when they are new remain for the life of the tire; quiet smooth ride, good (not excellent) wet weather traction, good fuel economy, reliable (though not exciting) handling) great dry traction, excellent bump absorption etc. Just about every other brand I have ever tied has always had a degradation in quality after about 50% of the tread was worn off. Some of the cheaper brands and generic tires even sooner than that.

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'O=00=O'
bmw 2002.
long live the legend

Michelin is definitely the way to go! My E320 came with Conti which was a decent tire. Replaced them with Michelins and will never go back.
Mercedes + Michelin + Mobil 1 = SUCCESS

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Donwo
1999 SL 500 Sport (30K miles)
1998 E320 (SOLD)
1989 560SL (SOLD)
1987 300E (TOTALED)
1986 300E (SOLD)
1984 300SD (SOLD)

They are a good tire IF you are going to use them.
In other words don't let the car sit. My Primacy's are 7 years old, the car was stored inside 97% of the time, and they are no longer safe for the highway.
My dad has had two sets and by the 8th year in lower usage, garage stored vehicles, he has had two set dry rot as bad as mine are.
My tires only have 6,000 miles on them and I will have to throw them away this spring due to heavy dry rot.
If you can wear them out in four years go for it.
I won't buy any more tires from this manufacturer until such time that they can refine their compounds to prevent dry rot.
A lot of people will flame me but an 80,000 tire would last me 7 years with my total mileage per year as an average.
Good luck.
jimm1009

I'm curious about your dry rot, with a car parked inside? What kind of climate in the garage? How bad is the dry rot, light crazing or are the tires throwing belts? I would say you should not have any detectable dry rot in at least 10 years of being outside.

My Primacy's are coming on three years old with 50000 miles on them.

I had the tread measured and it was 6/32s; meaning 50% tread still left.

Car is parked outside daily.

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bmw 2002.
long live the legend

The mileage wear is great and not too many have had problems with that.
My car and also my dad's car are always stored inside.
My car was in California (L.A.) from 2007 in inside storage and then I had it shipped here 1 year ago and it was inside. No climate control other than being inside out of the weather.
Same with my dad's car. He has always stored his Lincoln in the garage.
Both his and my tires are not throwing belts or chunks lie an 18 wheeler in the interstate but they are cranked on the sidewalls both inside and outside and there are thousands of cracks. They look like they are 20 years old an have been sitting in an old barn. His too.
I am going to take my car to the local dealer just so they can take my information but they are 1 year out of the calendar warranty so there is no hope of recovering a partial refund or credit towards new tires.
The tires ride great, are very quiet, and last a lot of miles but just not a lot of years years. I would rather wear my tires out by the miles over taking them off due to the decay of the sidewalls.
Just my 1.7 cents worth.
jimm1009