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Big Jim · #16 02-25-2010, 08:22 PM

Here's a nice one in FLA. 2WD though.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=274538000&dealer_id=65005469&car_year=2002&rdm=1267146974450&lastStartYear=1981&model=EXCURSION&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=__Ny4z__&keywordsrep=055046051&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=Diesel&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&sownerid=565083&showZipError=y&make=FORD&keywords_display=7.3&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=60457&advanced=y&end_year=2011&doors=&transmission=&max_price=20000&cardist=1001&standard=false

Aquaticedge · #17 02-26-2010, 01:30 AM

I did see that one... Thats the type that would get stolen around here, if not, the wheels etc would be...

Aquaticedge · #18 02-26-2010, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Jim

The 7.3 's sell quick when you can find them. The 6.0 's are way easier to find but I've read that they had some issues. You have to watch the transmissions on the 00 to 03 Excursions. If it is original, you can pretty much plan on having to replace it down the road based on my research and first hand experience of replacing the one in my 99 Expedition @ 55K on the clock.
I have been also been looking for one that fits your criteria. You gotta move quick on these when they do come up for sale. Ford has a few forums you might monitor and Powerstroke forum. Good luck in the search. Jim

Will never touch a 6.0L again. I did once and lost my shirt big time. there's far too many problems with the heads to even play with one. I've personally had one detonate in a bus of mine, and it had a newer head that was supposed to alleviate the issues...

Skid Row Joe · #19 02-26-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Jim

The 7.3 's sell quick when you can find them. The 6.0 's are way easier to find but I've read that they had some issues. You have to watch the transmissions on the 00 to 03 Excursions. If it is original, you can pretty much plan on having to replace it down the road based on my research and first hand experience of replacing the one in my 99 Expedition @ 55K on the clock.
I have been also been looking for one that fits your criteria. You gotta move quick on these when they do come up for sale. Ford has a few forums you might monitor and Powerstroke forum. Good luck in the search. Jim

In retrospect, I'd have no problem buying a 6.0 Excursion, reasons why; quieter, about a 10% mpg increase over the 7.3.

If you will recall, the 7.3 had problems/issues/kinks to work out of it, and that took a few years. So, went the 6.0.

Even though I own a 7.3 PSD, I'd have no problem buying a newer 6.0 used, if a diesel Excursion was what I had my heart set on.

Big Jim · #20 02-26-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

In retrospect, I'd have no problem buying a 6.0 Excursion, reasons why; quieter, about a 10% mpg increase over the 7.3.

If you will recall, the 7.3 had problems/issues/kinks to work out of it, and that took a few years. So, went the 6.0.

Even though I own a 7.3 PSD, I'd have no problem buying a newer 6.0 used, if a diesel Excursion was what I had my heart set on.

Yes, but the 7.3 was out several years before they put them in an Excursion. I think most of the kinks were addressed before they dropped them into an Excursion.
From what I have researched, the last few years of the 6.0 were pretty good motors. I think a 05 Excursion with the 6.0 would be the cat's a@# but they are not cheap. Jim

Big Jim · #21 02-26-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquaticedge

I did see that one... Thats the type that would get stolen around here, if not, the wheels etc would be...

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/1613972451.html
I've driven this one. The guy's been trying to sell this one for the last 6 months or so. It's got the 5.4 gasser in there but it's low miles and I think he told me it has had 3 transmissions in it. It's not a bad truck for the price. He'd probably jump on $7.5K cash. I am still kicking it around. A little TLC would get it sweet again. Jim

Aquaticedge · #22 02-26-2010, 08:59 PM

Found one in MS. I am in l.a Now to go see it.

Skid Row Joe · #23 02-27-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Jim

Yes, but the 7.3 was out several years before they put them in an Excursion. I think most of the kinks were addressed before they dropped them into an Excursion.
From what I have researched, the last few years of the 6.0 were pretty good motors. I think a 05 Excursion with the 6.0 would be the cat's a@# but they are not cheap. Jim

Big Jim,
I drove a 1980 Lincoln Town Car I bought new to 269K miles - and had not one problem with the overdrive 4-speed transmission mated to a 351 V-8. My 2002 Ford PSD 7.3 E450 has the auto trans. with overdrive - not one problem with it in 65K miles. I just have not had Ford tranny problems with the two Fords I've owned.

To the OP:
If you were burnt on a 6.0 - I don't blame you. Once burnt - ya never want another one, I understand that.

One thing I would like to say; now this is just me - I looked at a few of the linked to Excursions used from that dealer in Florida - what I would not buy - and this is just me - was one with the off-road look - jacked-up with oversized knobbie tires on it - that you know was probably thrashed by the previous owner. Maybe it's just me, but I would want to try to find one that had gentle around town usage - been used by a soccer Mom, and for groceries, a 4X4, but not one that has had the holy ***** beat out of it.
Try to talk to the previous owner on the phone as how it was used - before inking the deal.

When you're looking at one - look for signs of hard usage - did it pull a heavy trailer as a work truck - look under it for damage - look to see if it has been straight-piped with muffler cut-off - that's a sign the guy beat it to me - look for paint scratches - light ones where it might have been used off-road. Look at the front grille and paint - has it been pitted like crazy - look at the radiator - has it been run down the highway for a jillion miles and is full of bugs and dirt-grime.

And last - only buy one with a CARFAX on it to help verify the actual miles on it. Try to find one that hasn't been doctored and touched-up - because it was beat in it's previous owner's hands.

Aquaticedge · #24 02-27-2010, 05:58 PM

Screwed again... Drove ~800+ miles and the moron sold it out from under me....alas...

BobK · #25 03-01-2010, 07:59 AM

I have a 2000 Excursion with the 7.3, 3.83 and 4WD. Beast gets around 13-15 cityish. 16 at constant 70 mph. 10-12 towing my 26' mallard camper on the flat lands of Ohio. I have seen over 20mpg on same roads with cruise set at 65. That engine really hates RPMs. RPM goes up and MPG goes down. Really needed a fifth gear. Oh, and it weighs way more than 6000#s. Closer to 8 than 6 when my lard butt is sitting in it.

Skid Row Joe · #26 03-01-2010, 01:53 PM

Aqua - That sucks bigtime! I almost refuse to ink a deal OR negotiate on a used vehicle unless I can see it in person. That's part of it, unfortunately Aqua.

A buddy of mine is looking at a 1963 two-owner '63 Corvette Coupe 1,250 miles away that he thinks he really wants. He has a RT flight booked for $300 - 2-weeks out to see and likely buy it. It may or may not be available when he gets there - it's a private owner - so he wants to give the guy a $5K deposit on it sight unseen AND negotiate a final price before he sees it too. I told him don't do it - but he really is anxious to lock-in the car and price. We're talking about a car that is priced in the $80,000+ range - I hope he doesn't buy a car that later he regrets buying 'cause it isn't as represented.

BobK - My 7.3 is in a 2002 E450 dually RV with a 4.10 rear end. The 4.10 is stamped on the differential. Wet, the coach weighs about #13,000. Dry - #12,225 - I know because I had to get a weigh tare for licensing in South Dakota. This year-model has the overdrive trans. did not come with a tach - so I don't know the RPMs - but I usually run at 60 mph on the open highway. I can expect 10.5 mpg on average on a tank of diesel. It has a 55 gal. full steel fuel tank. I do not tow. Just wanted to give you some feedback.