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Old 02-20-2018, 02:38 PM
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Wanted: W210 Turbo Diesel

Hi all.

After considerable internal debate and hand wringing, I've decided to take a chance on a W210 turbo OM606. My W124s are starting to really bug me with all of the issues that they are developing due to their advanced age. I've said it before but I'll say it again: I just plain flat don't have time to be working on cars all the time! It's really getting fricking old! I have Bricklins and AMCs that I'd like to be able to spend some time on before I'm too old but these fricken tired old W124s are draining what little free time I have. I have a pile of them here that ALL need work! But I digress. Anyways, I'm looking for a lighter colored car with as few miles as possible as close to So. Cal. as possible as cheaply as possible. A documented history would be nice too. Even if your car doesn't meet all those criteria, please post here in this thread anyways so that I can consider it. Please do NOT PM me, just post here in this thread. Also, please share with me cars that you see posted on Craigslist etc. That would be much appreciated! As far as price goes, all I can say is: the values on CDIs are dropping rapidly. If I'm looking at W210s that are priced too high, then I'm thinking that I might be better off in CDI land. Yes, I'm well aware of all of the pros and cons, I've been researching both options for about a year now (that's what all of the internal debate and hand wringing has been about). So please, let me know what you have and/or what is out there! Thanks!

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Old 02-20-2018, 11:19 PM
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common issue with these is leaking trans fluid into the shifter switch. there's an upgraded switch. this is in Arizona, worth checking out.
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/98-mercedes-e300td-turbo/6485541311.html
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:55 AM
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Looks exactly what the OP is trying to avoid, another problem child, other than it is a w210.
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:12 AM
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Looks exactly what the OP is trying to avoid, another problem child, other than it is a w210.
then plan on anything you find having worn suspension, needing lifters, new engine and trans mounts, you know .. I have one with all the updates and I wouldn't sell it for under $8000 which I am sure he will run from.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:04 PM
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Thanks for the link! I actually already saw that ad and sloride is right, it's too rough for me. I'd rather spend a little more money for a better car. Not $8,000 though, that kind of money will get me into some seriously nice cars! (Please see below.)

You are hitting the problem on the head. I'm sure your car is a fabulous car, but it is 20 years old. All that rubber and plastic just crumbles in your hand. Stupid electrical gremlins torment a poor soul until he's ready to drive the thing off of a cliff. This is where I am now and this is what is in your 20-year-old car's future. Just look at what $6,000-$8,000 (and less) will buy me locally: (Yes, I know some of these have salvage titles, but I also know from first hand experience that cars often times get salvaged for the stupidest reasons. And I am knowledgable enough to be able to tell a truely tweaked car from a solid car. For the record, the most reliable car I have ever owned has a salvalge title. I have had several cars with salvage titles.)
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/d/2005-mercedes-benz-e320-cdi/6505279308.html
https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-2007-e320-cdi-320/6478796456.html
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-e320-cdi-diesel/6481246766.html
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/2006-mercedes-e320-cdi/6502978674.html
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/cto/d/2008-mercedes-benz-e320/6454639992.html

So yes, I would run from a 20-year-old $8,000 car. I'm pretty sure that I won't be buying this W210 from a forum member. We all place too high of a value on our babies. My hope is that fellow forum members will post links to ads they are seeing. That is probably how I'm going to find that proverbial low mile little old lady OM606 turbo W210. Please keep the links coming!
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87 300D "Benzer7"
87 300D "Benzer8"
87 300D "Benzer9"
87 300D/70 AMC Javelin "Sidewinder-Benzer"
87 300TD "Benzer11"
06 E320 CDI "Benzer12"
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71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:38 PM
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Here's another sweet sub-$8,000 car:
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/d/2007-mercedes-e320-diesel/6504197246.html
Lower miles and a clean title, a lighter color and it's local to me too! I didn't investigate Bluetecs when I was doing my research, now I'm wishing I had. Mercedes did away with that nightmare brake system starting in 2007, plus the bluetec has more horsepower and torque! And contrary to what many believe, the 2007-2009s still hadn't adopted urea injection yet! Tell me please, can a do-it-yourselfer keep one of these running? If there are too many potential issues that are curable only by visits to a professional mechanic, that would be a deal breaker for me! Why do older, higher mile CDIs still command a higher price than the first bluetecs?!? How come I'm the only one posting links to ads in this thread? Aren't there ANY Turbo OM606 W210s for me? Please guys, I need help! (Not THAT kind of help, I mean help with getting myself a reliable diesel!)
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93 400E "Benzer3" 14.200 U.C.
95 E420 "Benzer4"
92 300E "Benzer5" 16.299 U.C. Future turbo CNG
87 300D "Benzer7"
87 300D "Benzer8"
87 300D "Benzer9"
87 300D/70 AMC Javelin "Sidewinder-Benzer"
87 300TD "Benzer11"
06 E320 CDI "Benzer12"
05 E320 CDI "Benzer12A"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" AMC 360 pwrd.

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Old 02-25-2018, 04:05 PM
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i did look at a few of these and i was pretty sure they had the fluid reservoirs in them for the urea...
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Here's another sweet sub-$8,000 car:
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/d/2007-mercedes-e320-diesel/6504197246.html
Lower miles and a clean title, a lighter color and it's local to me too! I didn't investigate Bluetecs when I was doing my research, now I'm wishing I had. Mercedes did away with that nightmare brake system starting in 2007, plus the bluetec has more horsepower and torque! And contrary to what many believe, the 2007-2009s still hadn't adopted urea injection yet! Tell me please, can a do-it-yourselfer keep one of these running? If there are too many potential issues that are curable only by visits to a professional mechanic that would be a deal breaker for me! Why do older, higher mile CDIs still command a higher price than the first bluetecs?!? How come I'm the only one posting links to ads in this thread? Aren't there ANY Turbo OM606 W210s for me? Please guys, I need help! (Not THAT kind of help, I mean help with getting myself a reliable diesel!)
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Old 02-26-2018, 02:09 AM
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From here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_E-Class_(W211) I got this:

E320/300 Bluetec (2007–2009)
Commonrail Direct Injection with a 7G-Tronic automatic transmission, launched in the USA as the E320 BlueTEC in 2007 and in Europe as the E300 BlueTEC in 2008. The W211 never had a urea injection system throughout its production. The Bluetec name was only adopted to have consistency between the petrol and diesel nomenclature.

I know that wiki isn't the best source for info but it isn't the worst either. Even if these cars have urea injection I can live with it IF they don't have other issues requiring constant trips to a "professional" mechanic. In other words, I need a reliable diesel! Why is this proving so difficult?!? So should I just pull the trigger on one of these newer cars or is there a nice W210 OM606 turbo out there that doesn't cost as much as a Bluetec?
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87 300D "Benzer7"
87 300D "Benzer8"
87 300D "Benzer9"
87 300D/70 AMC Javelin "Sidewinder-Benzer"
87 300TD "Benzer11"
06 E320 CDI "Benzer12"
05 E320 CDI "Benzer12A"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
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Old 02-27-2018, 07:48 AM
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bluetecs are pretty reliable. couple come thru the dealer for maintenance the adBlue isn't a lot of maintenance either nor is it usually an issue. definitely worth the cost you pay but I still prefer the om606. anything past an early CDI is all aluminum to me and that is junk.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:22 PM
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I'd prefer an OM606 too but not if I have to pay the same amount of money for one that a 10 year newer Bluetec costs with more than 100,000 fewer miles.

I was just explaining this to my 12 year old who wants me to drive W124s 'till I die: What's more reliable? A super reliable in it's day but now 30-plus year old car with a quarter of a millon miles or a semi-reliable and overly complex car that's only 1/3 the age and has less than half the miles?

It's really a problem. I need a decent diesel powered car! I'll tell you how sick I'm getting: I have even caught myself looking at BMW 335ds!

Come-on folks, I need that nice W210 before I go and do something stupid. Please help!
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95 E420 "Benzer4"
92 300E "Benzer5" 16.299 U.C. Future turbo CNG
87 300D "Benzer7"
87 300D "Benzer8"
87 300D "Benzer9"
87 300D/70 AMC Javelin "Sidewinder-Benzer"
87 300TD "Benzer11"
06 E320 CDI "Benzer12"
05 E320 CDI "Benzer12A"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:18 PM
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OK 400Eric, don't go looking at a BMW diesel now. OK?
here's an E300D in the SF area, not sure why its a salvage title though, sometimes that is a little thing but the vaue goes down regardless, so this is overpriced with that in mind.
Its in my fav color, deep Blue. 166K miles. Nice looking seats, esp the drivers seat bolster apperas in great shape, I always check that, seatcovers tell me its worn!
Seller is asking $3450

BTW the reasoning for me to put a $8K price on my '99 E300D was so you wouldn't buy it! Its driven by my wife's niece to college and her dad brings it home so it doesn't stay on campus. I get to drive it occasionally and still ove the feel on the road, the way it drives, handles etc. I prefer it over my wife's '2000 E320 but they are both 210's and the end of the road for me.

My 99 300D is a sad looking thing though, silver paint fried in the high desert and clear coat peeling bady but NO RUST! the way it looks no one would steal it (think positive?)
Also at around 210K I had the trans rebuilt by MZF. I put a few thou into the suspension so its like new underneath. Thats the problem some of the Benz's FS with 150K miles and more need suspension parts to make them drive "right" - I drove one that the owner didn't even know was messed up, the car wasn't responsive like it should be and it wallowed around on a test drive enuff to make me want to get back ASAP.

I would rather buy a car which needs work and pay a low price to get everything done right with OE or best availabe components than pay high dollar for one that is claimed to need nothing then in fact does have "needs"
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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/1998-mercedes-benz-e300-turbo/6507407716.html
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Old 02-28-2018, 05:48 PM
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another 99 300D turbo FS in SF Bay area

Just listed 2/28
220K miles, no pic.
Clean title. asking $3950
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/1999-mercedes-e300-diesel/6513513411.html
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:02 AM
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Thanks for the links!

The first car appears to be gone already. The ad's deleted.

Before I consider the second car I'd like to know what you (and everybody else here) thinks about this car: https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-mercedes-e300d-turbo/6487748873.html It has fewer miles, costs less, and is much closer to me. The only issue for me is the Greasecar kit. Should I run away from the car because of that our not?
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95 E420 "Benzer4"
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87 300D "Benzer7"
87 300D "Benzer8"
87 300D "Benzer9"
87 300D/70 AMC Javelin "Sidewinder-Benzer"
87 300TD "Benzer11"
06 E320 CDI "Benzer12"
05 E320 CDI "Benzer12A"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C.
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:07 AM
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Thanks for the links!

The first car appears to be gone already. The ad's deleted.

Before I consider the second car I'd like to know what you (and everybody else here) thinks about this car: https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-mercedes-e300d-turbo/6487748873.html It has fewer miles, costs less, and is much closer to me. The only issue for me is the Greasecar kit. Should I run away from the car because of that our not?
I wouldn't run away from that car if it wasn't run long on veggie. it also depends on how the quality of the veggie was.
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:29 AM
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How would I be able to tell how long it was run on veggie and how good the quality of the veggie was?

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95 E420 "Benzer4"
92 300E "Benzer5" 16.299 U.C. Future turbo CNG
87 300D "Benzer7"
87 300D "Benzer8"
87 300D "Benzer9"
87 300D/70 AMC Javelin "Sidewinder-Benzer"
87 300TD "Benzer11"
06 E320 CDI "Benzer12"
05 E320 CDI "Benzer12A"
71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder"
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