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WTB diesel: 1992 W124 or 1992 W140? Which car to choose?
Hello Friends,
I am gathering information to make a purchase decision on a diesel. My father had a 1977 300d that served him well and had 350,000 miles when he sold it. I am active on the vintage forum with my V8 4.5 gas guzzler. I need a car to make sales calls in with good air conditioning. The summer heat in Houston is oppressive. Also, Houston is large geographically so that a trip across town could be 40 miles each way. Gas mileage is a factor in selecting a diesel. I am considering a 1992 W124 that is very clean for $4500. Then someone told me about a 1992 300SD for $7000 that has 140k mileage. Both cars seem to be clean well cared for garage kept types. Is the W140 with 603 as reliable as the W124 with 602 motor? Will the maintenance of the two cars be similar or more expensive? Is the luxury of the W140 worth the $2500 difference? I hear the fuel consumption is similar, is that true or a myth? Thank you for your experience, wisdom, and opinions! Jeffrey
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1962 220Sb ~ The Emerald Bullet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx6tN1W48_o 1957 Ponton 220S 2001 S600 Daily Driver The Universe is Abundant ~ Life is GOOD!http://www.classiccarclock.com |
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I would go with the w124. The w140 is know for electrical problems and plus the engine is known to bend rods.
As a complete package I would with the w124.
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1986 300SDL, 211K,Dealership serviced its whole life 1991 190E 2.6(120k) 1983 300D(300k) 1977 300D(211k) |
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Probably the W124 unless you have lots of extra Ca$h to keep the W140 going properly...
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
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Get the W124
The W140 Chassis is an "Entertainment" (Electrically) by itself...
Adding the "Rod-Bender" engine makes it certain you'll drop your present job to become an employee of your new auto shop (with only yourself as customer). Then there's the question of how to pay for all the parts?
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Thanks for the information... I have read that the 350SDL motor is risky. Are all of the 3.5 motors considered risky? Is there some point in time where MB made a significant change? Are the 1995-99 diesels considered risky?
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1962 220Sb ~ The Emerald Bullet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx6tN1W48_o 1957 Ponton 220S 2001 S600 Daily Driver The Universe is Abundant ~ Life is GOOD!http://www.classiccarclock.com |
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95-99 all have the 606 engine, very reliable.
95 was a W124 NA 96-97 were W210's NA 98-99 were W210's Turbo'd.
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Terry Allison N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama 09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA) 09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.) |
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stick with the 300d to avoid rod bending issue.
87 is creme of the crop at 3L 6 cyl vs 2.5 5 cyl, power wise. but the 87 did use the early style #14 head which some say is prone to cracking (although Ive never had that problem in 288k) 2 tank wvo good option for either (i just netted 106 mpg on last fill up D2) but i wouldnt try that trick on 606. if wvo is not to be used, 606 turbo diesel is most refined (and expensive) option. my opinion : if no wvo, doesnt make sense to buy an old diesel, being that fuel mileage increase is negligible and cost of d2 is typically higher, which will offset the slight increase in fuel mileage.
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Paul Benz-less I need an SDL ! |
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Today I filled up for $1.99/gal with ULSD. RUG at the same station was $2.29, premium $2.49.
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1984 300D: 275,000 miles (soon to be for sale) In search of my 1987 300D in anything but white. |
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sweet! i fill up pretty infrequently but 2 weeks ago d2 was about .20 more per gal, and we all know its been dollars higher not too long ago. guess i would expect it to be higher in the long run.
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Paul Benz-less I need an SDL ! |
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124 for the win. I wouldn't mess with a rod bender for several reasons, rod-bending being one of the more serious ones. I also just plain dislike the W140 styling.
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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar. 83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles 08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles 88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress. |
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