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04-30-2003, 03:23 AM
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Hi,
I have a complete set of calipers, rotors, backing plates and pads. Rotors and pads are pretty worn, calipers and backing plates are very good condition. They are from a working vehicle, I just upgrated to 400E setup.
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Peter Chu aka PIKACHU 08 C300 Premium Pkg, MM Pkg, Sport Pkg, Keyless Go 86 300E soon to be E36 with Euro Headlights 400E front & rear brake upgrade 16" CLK wheels with Michelin MXV4 plus Green X 
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04-30-2003, 08:33 PM
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Peter, how do you like the 400E upgrade? I bought all the parts to upgrade mine to E420 brakes front & rear, but haven't installed yet. Just curious how yours turned out. Also, what brake pads did you use?
Thanks!
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05-01-2003, 02:47 AM
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Hi Dave,
The result is as expected, stop on a dime! You will probably get better result because you bought the thicker setup, BTW, from what I read on this site, the rear is not a DIY job, what are you going to do? I wil probably do it if you can pull it off yourself and give me some pointer!! Peter 
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05-01-2003, 10:15 AM
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Hi Peter,
The rear can be done as DIY if you just chop off the stock splash shield. TO install the new, larger splash shield requires pulling the rear hub & installing new bearings, which is not a DIY job and is, from what I hear, a massive PITA! Up front they're only 10mm larger, but I'm hoping the 4-piston fixed setup may be a little stronger - not sure. Check out this site for lots more info: http://www.2phast.com/190E/brakes.htm BTW, what pads did you use before & after? I tried Porterfield R4-S pads with my stock brakes and WOW, the power & feel is awesome, but they will still fade after a few 60-0 panic stops (i.e., torture testing, not real-world driving). I was kind of hoping the larger stuff will delay the onset of fade, which it should... 
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05-01-2003, 01:11 PM
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Hi Dave,
I only put on OEM Pagid pads, may try yours if you say they are much better. I wonder the 22mm rotor wraps easier than the 25mm if I do a lot of 60-0! BTW, did you buy backing plates for the E420 setup? I like to know if they are the same as 400E setup (124 420 27 44 & 124 420 28 44) it would be nice if they are the same, then I might upgrade to E420 setup someday!! Peter
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Peter Chu aka PIKACHU 08 C300 Premium Pkg, MM Pkg, Sport Pkg, Keyless Go 86 300E soon to be E36 with Euro Headlights 400E front & rear brake upgrade 16" CLK wheels with Michelin MXV4 plus Green X
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05-01-2003, 01:20 PM
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Peter,
The Porterfield pads are awesome but cost ~$225 for a set, front & rear. They need a decent bed-in period as well, particularly with new rotors. The E420 backing plates are the same. Actually, only the 1992 models had the smaller brakes, I think... the 1993-up 400E had the larger stuff IIRC, same as the 1993-up E320. 294x25 instead of 295x22. The rears are the same on 400E and E420, much larger, and vented. More details, with all part numbers and sizes, are here: http://www.meimann.com/docs/mercedes/124_brakes.pdf If you like to stop hard, I assume you may want to turn fast as well? Check out the 124 sway bar spec sheet too: http://www.meimann.com/docs/mercedes/124_swaybars.pdf Best regards,
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