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tabo · #1 10-01-2002, 11:43 AM

Gilly, can you answer my Question? you stated ..

Air Filter - 60,000 miles or 4 years
Brake Fluid - 2 years
Coolant Flush - 3 years
Fuel Filter - 60,000 miles or 4 years
Spark Plugs - 100,000 miles or 4 years

but u forgot to mention

Differential Fluids-
Timing Belt -
Dust Filter -
Transmission Flush -
Replace Transfer Case Oil -

can you please tell me when they need to be changed? and what are miles changed to kilometres since I'm in canada? thanks!

G-Benz · #2 10-01-2002, 01:33 PM

1 mile is approx 1.6 km. So just multiply by 1.6 to get the km service intervals...

Kuan · #3 10-02-2002, 06:56 AM

The transmission is supposed to be filled for life. Change the dust filter whenever you feel like doing so, or clean it once in awhile. I think the non-static type is washable. Timing belt, just check it for wear, although I would change it at 70k even if there weren't any visible signs of aging. I don't remember the transfer case and differential... maybe it's like the transmission.

Oh, nice to see you have two American cars in your stable

Kuan

tabo · #4 10-02-2002, 11:11 AM

American? I'd never buy an american car in my life even if its free! hehe.. Well 70k that is kinda early for a timing belt.. u know its NOT CHEAP.. i think its like a $500 US job? for a timing belt?? also when to change the power steering fluids?

#5 10-02-2002, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by tabo
American? I'd never buy an american car in my life even if its free! hehe.. Well 70k that is kinda early for a timing belt.. u know its NOT CHEAP.. i think its like a $500 US job? for a timing belt?? also when to change the power steering fluids?

ML has timing chain so you don't need to replace that,

Gilly · #6 10-02-2002, 05:27 PM

There is no service interval for the diff or transfer case oil, or the 722.6 transmission. There is no timing belt, all Mercedes have timing chains, and there is no interval on the chain either.
The dust filter (for the climate control) gets done on every "B" service. The maintenance intervals in KM's are listed in the flexible service system sheets, but I haven't memorized them. As has been stated, maybe just do the calculations manually, or here is a website with a conversion calculator:

http://www.admiralmetals.com/metric_conv.htm

Gilly

ps There is no service interval for the power steering oil either.

tabo · #7 10-02-2002, 08:23 PM

So u telling me i never have to change my timing chain? SWEET cuz its probably the most expensive service item for my other cars =/

Gilly · #8 10-02-2002, 08:39 PM

There's no service interval=there is no replacement of the chain based on either time or mileage, that's what I'm saying, yes.

Gilly

#9 10-04-2002, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by gillybenztech
There is no service interval for the diff or transfer case oil, or the 722.6 transmission. There is no timing belt, all Mercedes have timing chains, and there is no interval on the chain either.
The dust filter (for the climate control) gets done on every "B" service. The maintenance intervals in KM's are listed in the flexible service system sheets, but I haven't memorized them. As has been stated, maybe just do the calculations manually, or here is a website with a conversion calculator:

http://www.admiralmetals.com/metric_conv.htm

Gilly

ps There is no service interval for the power steering oil either.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think there is some thing about transfer case and diff in 02 service manual

Gilly · #10 10-04-2002, 05:04 PM

I'd hate to just arbitrarily say "no" to this if you are concerned about it. I am on vacation and not working again until Tuesday. i'd be happy to check then. I am wondering what the "02 service manual" is that you mention though. The best source of reference would be an ML FSS sheet.

Gilly

Gilly · #11 10-04-2002, 05:48 PM

MB/DCAG is NOT recommending changing the fluid in 722.6's. They MAY be looking at this, per the transmission class MB ran me through this year. In the "actual values" screen in the trans control unit, they have a value called "Transmission oil condition counter", and the instructors there believed MB may use this at some future date to determine if the fluid needs to be changed. However later in the class, it was discoverd on the new cars we were using to practice setting up the transmission adaptation values, that this feature was no longer incorporated into the control module.
Now, I would tend to agree that if I wanted the car/truck to last "forever" that changing the ATF and filter at more like 100,000 miles (not 100,000 KM) may not be such a bad idea. We do have a service advisor with a 97 E300Diesel with approaching 300,000 miles on it, which we have done all the service work to, and the transmission fluid is original, working just fine.
DUTCH, I can understand your motivation to change the oil more frequently, to me it's good to see someone at least holding out to 5000 miles. My thought on the pre-FSS cars was to also take into account not just the type of oil, but the amount of oil the engine holds. On the GM stuff I and my wife have, I tend to think about 1000 miles per quart of engine oil capacity (4000 or 5000 miles on those vehicles, using dino oil). The more capacity, the more oil there is to hold contaminants in suspension. Using this philosophy, (whether or not you agree with it) you can probably see why I don't feel that an FSS service is that extreme of an interval, given that the engine holds 8 1/2 qts and it's supposed to be running synthetic oil.
But again, I can understand wanting to change more often if you have a vehicle you have no intention of getting rid of in say over a decade. Myself, I tend to hold on to a vehicle for maybe 100,000 to 125,000 miles or so (5 or 6 years), as long as I get good service out of it (no oil burning, etc) for that time period I'm satisfied. I think alot of people have about the same goals. After about that length of time the interior and exterior are looking shabby and they want to update. Usually I'm just "tired" of the car and want something new.

Gilly

Gilly · #12 10-04-2002, 07:41 PM

Right, that's what I was attempting to acknkowledge, that some people may tend to more preventative maintenance than others, such as a G owner. I don't want or care to maintain a vehicle with 300,000 to 500,000 miles in mind when I know I won't be keeping the vehicle around that long. MOST people, I think we can agree, don't aim for keeping a vehicle that long.
My sister-in-law tried playing a game like this with me; Gets her Pontiac up to close to 200,000 miles, then decides she needs a new car. I do all the maintenance on her cars. Then decides "wouldn't it be neat to keep the old one going, you know, just to see how long it'll last?". I said, sure, as long as someone else takes care of it, you've been lucky to get this many miles out of it.

Gilly

tabo · #13 10-04-2002, 10:14 PM

Have a great vacation gilly, do u ever get sick of cars? U work all day on cars and after work u hang out with us lol... Where ya going on your vacation? I want to go mexico next...