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Old 08-22-2017, 02:11 PM
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“In the northern hemisphere, 1983-2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1,400 years.”

If we go back 1,400 years, we have a period in Europe immediately following the fall of the Roman empire, and predating the MWP. So, clearly the IPCC denies that the MWP was as warm as current temperatures.

This is the official consensus science: that temperatures were flat for 1,300 years and then suddenly kick-up from sometime after 1830 and certainly after 1880 – with no decline at 1980.

To be clear, while mainstream climate science is replete with published proxy temperature studies showing that temperatures have cycled up and down over the last 2,000 years – spiking during the Medieval Warm Period and then again recently to about 1980 as shown in Figure 12 – the official IPCC reconstructions (which underpin the Paris Accord) deny such cycles. Through this denial, leaders from within this much-revered community can claim that there is something unusual about current temperatures: that we have catastrophic global warming from industrialisation.

The science is far from settled. In reality, some of the data is ‘problematic’, the underlying physical mechanisms are complex and poorly understood, the literature voluminous, and new alternative techniques (such as our method using ANNs) can give very different answers to those derived from General Circulation Models and remodelled proxy-temperature series.


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Old 08-22-2017, 04:40 PM
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THAT'S HOW YOU ADVANCE SCIENCE!

Make an open source model that uses the same data sources and comes up with a different answer.

Let the competition begin!

(hopefully other competitive models will come along challenging both of these. And so forth until no new models compete with the best one. Is the best one "right"? NO! It's just the best one, NOW. But it will be more reliable and useful than whatever came before).
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Old 08-22-2017, 04:49 PM
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:30 PM
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look, all the planets are warming,even pluto. a 2 megaton exchange of 100 weapons would cool us down and save the polar bears.It takes over 200,000 20 megaton nukes to make planet sterile for mankind,lucky we only have 2800.
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:03 PM
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look, all the planets are warming,even pluto. a 2 megaton exchange of 100 weapons would cool us down and save the polar bears.It takes over 200,000 20 megaton nukes to make planet sterile for mankind,lucky we only have 2800.
fact check on isle #2764 ....
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:28 PM
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look, all the planets are warming,even pluto. a 2 megaton exchange of 100 weapons would cool us down and save the polar bears.It takes over 200,000 20 megaton nukes to make planet sterile for mankind,lucky we only have 2800.
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:52 PM
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I think Hurricane Harvey is going to make believers out of Texans.

Maybe Cruz can explain why the state getting hit by a 1000-yr event is just a pure coincidence.
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:56 PM
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I think Hurricane Harvey is going to make believers out of Texans.

Maybe Cruz can explain why the state getting hit by a 1000-yr event is just a pure coincidence.
Because believing that it is not coincidence means that we actually have to do something about it and no one wants to actually get off their ass and make an effort.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:13 PM
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oh, so now hurricanes, which have been around forever are caused by MMCC? Give me a ****ing break........
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:22 PM
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Jesus causes hurricanes. Any right-wing dolt knows that...
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:29 PM
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oh, so now hurricanes, which have been around forever are caused by MMCC? Give me a ****ing break........
I do not think anyone is saying that. What is being implied is that the increased severity of them may be a by product of humans.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:42 PM
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Increasing severity?
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:49 PM
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Global warming is no big deal. Houston is so much more scenic underwater.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:53 PM
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Global warming is no big deal. Houston is so much more scenic underwater.
LOL. I think the residents of Houston and surrounding areas might disagree.
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Old 08-28-2017, 02:36 PM
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Increasing severity?
I know, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane

what are the usual suspects always saying when it is to their advantage? Oh yeah, "weather is not climate"

Houston will pull through, regardless if simpletons in other places want it to or not. Strong city, business will go on and regain strength. Houston doesn't give a **** what communists say.
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