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Old 03-24-2015, 03:16 PM
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Plane Crash in the French Alps

Big tragedy. Can't wait to hear the cause given 8 minute descent with no distress call?

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Old 03-24-2015, 03:49 PM
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There should be a big orange button in easy reach of both pilots. If anything goes wrong, anything at all, they hit it and the cockpit microphones are immediately and continuously broadcast on on some side band, along with all data from the plane on another band. This system should also be triggered automatically by abnormal events like decompression or engine failures, whatever. No possible harm. Can't be that expensive.
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Old 03-24-2015, 04:10 PM
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There should be a big orange button in easy reach of both pilots. If anything goes wrong, anything at all, they hit it and the cockpit microphones are immediately and continuously broadcast on on some side band, along with all data from the plane on another band. This system should also be triggered automatically by abnormal events like decompression or engine failures, whatever. No possible harm. Can't be that expensive.
Why orange? I think that day-glo green would stand out more prominently.
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Old 03-24-2015, 04:17 PM
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There should be a big orange button in easy reach of both pilots. If anything goes wrong, anything at all, they hit it and the cockpit microphones are immediately and continuously broadcast on on some side band, along with all data from the plane on another band. This system should also be triggered automatically by abnormal events like decompression or engine failures, whatever. No possible harm. Can't be that expensive.
Cockpit recorders save the last thirty minutes of flight on a continuous loop tape. I think those Buses that went in the Indian Ocean were relaying data to sat links.
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Old 03-24-2015, 06:03 PM
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Commercial airliners are required to carry a cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorders. Could have had a mechanical failure sever elecrical lines, could be decompression.....hard to say. In a decompression, crew is trained to go to oxygen and the passengers masks should deploy. The pressurization systems will alarm to a pressure loss if it's not apparent to the crew. Lots of things to consider. Due to the impact, its going to be tough to figure out.
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Old 03-24-2015, 06:05 PM
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Apparently the plane flew for a while before the crash, so there will probably be an record of the events leading up to the end.
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Old 03-24-2015, 06:07 PM
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Tracking planes and pilots . . . and some folks here are nervous about OnStar . . .
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Tracking planes and pilots . . . and some folks here are nervous about OnStar . . .
A public transportation vehicle is supposed to follow a set route that's already known to the owners and regulatory authorities. A private transportation vehicle's location should be private to all but the owner.
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Old 03-24-2015, 06:28 PM
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SA-7?
Missile? Unlikely. I think they reported the aircraft as being at cruising altitude when whatever caused it to eventually crash happened. Missiles capable of reaching to 35,000 ft aren't exactly easily available or portable.

The presence of a SAM launch vehicle in the French countryside wouldn't exactly be easy to conceal.
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:19 PM
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Said it descended 8 minutes......that probably was in a glide rather than a dive.
About 4375 ft/min......thats not outrageous.
Cockpit nulled out by someone or something?
Oxygen masks deploy automatically....cabin is usually around 10.5 psi I think...so that would kill the slow loss of pressure and no one knowing it theory.
Then it disintegrated.....that is very interesting.
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:45 PM
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Said it descended 8 minutes......that probably was in a glide rather than a dive.
About 4375 ft/min......thats not outrageous.
Cockpit nulled out by someone or something?
Oxygen masks deploy automatically....cabin is usually around 10.5 psi I think...so that would kill the slow loss of pressure and no one knowing it theory.
Then it disintegrated.....that is very interesting.
Didn't it disintegrate because it HIT A MOUNTAIN?

Explanation could be some mechanical failure at high altitude (maybe even decompression), followed by a descent while trying to work the problem. Crew encountered poor visibility due to weather, ended up disoriented and flew into a granite cloud. This was a 25 year old aircraft. Unclear if they had any sort of GPS with moving charts.
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Old 03-25-2015, 10:24 AM
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Didn't it disintegrate because it HIT A MOUNTAIN?

Explanation could be some mechanical failure at high altitude (maybe even decompression), followed by a descent while trying to work the problem. Crew encountered poor visibility due to weather, ended up disoriented and flew into a granite cloud. This was a 25 year old aircraft. Unclear if they had any sort of GPS with moving charts.
Ground reports of noises before impact.Could support a catastrophic fuselage event with immediate loss of pressurization.
A320's have quite a few Airworthiness Directives issued regarding fuselage cracking in critical areas. They are made of composites. If something like that happened, reconstruction would be damned near impossible after flying into a mountain. To be fair, aluminum hulled aircraft crack a lot too, but composites in commercial aircraft are relatively new compared to aluminum.
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Old 03-25-2015, 10:39 AM
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Interesting, an EASA Emergency Airworthiness Directive, issued in 12/2014
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Old 03-25-2015, 11:56 AM
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Apparently, one of the data recorders is damaged and missing its memory card, the other has yielded no information. Interesting...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html
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