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Old 12-07-2015, 12:18 PM
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No, I'll bite; is there a companion chart that breaks out murders by firearm?
You'd be disappointed....the assault rifle is way down the list.
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Old 12-07-2015, 12:20 PM
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You'd be disappointed....the assault rifle is way down the list.
No problem, any old firearm will do.
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Old 12-07-2015, 12:54 PM
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History also shows that the US has the highest rate of gun violence of any western industrialized nation and that the vast majority of nations which heavily restrict gun owners are not tyrannies or dictatorships or anything of the sort. Hold on to that tin foil hat real tight.
I think if you combine all those 'other' western industrialized nations until you get to the same population as the US, you'll find gun violence and mass shooting are of a comparable rate.
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Old 12-07-2015, 01:24 PM
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I think if you combine all those 'other' western industrialized nations until you get to the same population as the US, you'll find gun violence and mass shooting are of a comparable rate.
The stats that I've seen are compiled by deaths/100,000 population. Stacking doesn't fly under that circumstance.
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Old 12-07-2015, 01:32 PM
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Murder rate is declining, but you probably knew that. It's all about the politics.

Never mind the actual data ....
Oh you wanted actual data? Here you go, son.

OECD homicide rates chart - Business Insider
Guess what all those countries listed below the US have in common.
HINT: Its not more guns.
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:00 PM
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Stats Show More Guns Equals Less Gun Violence Between 1993 and 2013 | FortySix News
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I guess its true. A sucker like you is born every day.
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:49 PM
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Oh you wanted actual data? Here you go, son.

OECD homicide rates chart - Business Insider
Guess what all those countries listed below the US have in common.
HINT: Its not more guns.
The man said declining, you show a fixed figure.
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:54 PM
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I guess its true. A sucker like you is born every day.
So, are you saying the Koch Brothers support gun violence? I call bull**** x100
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:55 PM
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I refuse to give up my rights for terrorists.

Besides they did break the law, as they did in France. Terrorists don't follow laws.


The terrorist watch list is also unconstitutional, you cannot take away someones rights without due process.
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:58 PM
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I was hoping somebody not pro-gun would explain that interesting description for ARs. Guess not.
Ask the NYT's. I assume they are trying to paint a negative picture for low information voters.

From a technical standpoint the only thing different from an FN AR for military use and one for Civilian sale is the removal of three round burst.

So technically my AR is less of a "military" weapon than my M1 Carbine, K31, Mosin, 1911, Browning Hi power. Those are all as they were issued with no modifications for civilian sale.


From a getting shot standpoint I doubt it makes much of a difference if the .223 comes from an AR15 or a Mini 14 in nice wood furniture.
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So, are you saying the Koch Brothers support gun violence? I call bull**** x100
You fail at reading. Do the world a favor and kick your HS English teacher in the nuts. Or you know, shoot him since you're into that kind of thing.
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:27 PM
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I hearby surrender my rights to nukes & missiles. Also, no poison gas and germs. I'm okay with that.

I agree to seek a federal permit for machine-guns and artillery. Same with high explosives.

No freedom is absolute. Reasonable infringements gladly accepted.

Now lets seek agreement on what is reasonable.
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:30 PM
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You forgot laser and plasma based weapon sytsems.
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:31 PM
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I'm keeping my options open for a railgun.
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