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Earn $455/wk? No overtime for you!
I guess I have mixed feelings over this new overtime law. Those who make less than $23,666 are automatically eligible for overtime, up from the $8060, whereas those making $100,000 or more aren't. Those who fall in between may or may not depending on their job classification.
The good is that more low wage workers, those who make up to $11.37 are now eligible. I'm still not sure from reading dol.gov site if this $23,666 figure includes overtime or not. In otherwords I don't know if it means that you lose your overtime once your gross earnings reach $23,666. The bad news is that Registered Nurses are exempt. They're considered learned professionals. Chefs, teachers, scientists, mathematicians, they're all lumped into the same "learned professional" category. I'd rather have everyone eligible for overtime.
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I also have to wonder whether employers haven't just been incentivized to use their lower-paid employees less when overtime is needed, since those employees will have to be paid overtime regardless of job classification. Maybe I don't understand the legislation, but isn't this screwing the little guy out of income? |
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I think the main purpose of this law is to decrease the number of overtime lawsuits. We'll have to wait and see on that. I've worked in three states, CA, IL, and MN. Overtime was never denied to anybody, even those who went over the old limit of $8060 no matter what they were. If they were hourly employees, they got overtime.
The confusion comes in where salaried employees claim that they're owed more than what they're paid. Some are exempt, some aren't. Under the old laws, these exemptions weren't clarified and this resulted in many lawsuits. The new law seeks to clarify these exemptions. Negotiated contracts will not be affected, so more power to Unions. If this isn't incentive to unionize I don't know what is. IMO I think the administration shot itself in the foot with this one.
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Kuan, does this apply to all employers, or just the ones above a certain size?
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I'm not sure that those not affected by the law under the old guidelines won't be affected now. Wasn't the rule like two employees? Question to ask Narwhal.
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It's crap. The terms of compensation should be STRICTLY between an employer and and employee. Government has no reason, nor should they have the right, to stick their nose in it. Mike
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I have never caught the details of this whole issue. Is this pertaining just to certain job fields, or what? We have people in a wide range of pay scales where I work, and it's over time pay for everyone that wants overtime.
Where's the beef?
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Complex
The new rule applies to employer that have 2+ employees and is more complex than just the pay issue of $455. The employee must first fit one of three catagories Administrative, Proffesional or Executive and meet the exemption requirements in that catagory. Title and/or pay no longer rule the roost. If you make more than $100K a year you wont get overtime period
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What's amazing to me is that no one knows the effect of the law. I've heard estimates between 100k more people will get overtime to over a million will lose overtime. Most people I've heard on the subject admit they have no idea what will happen.
How the hell do you pass laws and have no idea what the effect will be? |
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The work week has been mandated, and shrinking, to control the labour force with regards to productivity. The period of 1930-1939 was caused by inaction in terms of fiscal policy to redistribute the labour with regards to dramatic increases in productivity. While Mike, your "don't mess with us" statement makes sense, but it's not optimal. People like to think depression era conditions are "beyond" us, and that's thanks to serious intervention policies by goverment. Do you wish to return to the pre WW2 era of deep cycle economies? I can't imagine why.
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Ok. That eliminates me, and anybody that works in my trade.
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