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Old 08-26-2004, 03:27 PM
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'Unfit for Command' Hits #1 on NY Times Bestsellers List

Interesting that a book by a bunch of "discredited liars" would make #1 on the list.

More people are interested in what these guys have to say than not. There must be a lot of sleepless nights in the ketchup palace...............

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Old 08-26-2004, 03:41 PM
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Wcko right wing books make the best sellar list all the time. It just proves their are over 100,000 rightwing wackos out there, and proves nothing. If your looking for the book, its next to Coulter's "Treason", another best seller.
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Old 08-26-2004, 03:43 PM
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Wcko right wing books make the best sellar list all the time. It just proves their are over 100,000 rightwing wackos out there, and proves nothing. If your looking for the book, its next to Coulter's "Treason", another best seller.
Hell Kirt, that's a pretty good book. I read it a few months ago. Anne is not afraid to mix it up with the boys and gives a good defense of Tailgunner Joe.
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Old 08-26-2004, 03:44 PM
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Can't wait to see the movie.
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Old 08-26-2004, 03:48 PM
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Hell Kirt, that's a pretty good book. I read it a few months ago. Anne is not afraid to mix it up with the boys and gives a good defense of Tailgunner Joe.
You read and liked the Coulter book? I'm shocked, shocked.
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Old 08-26-2004, 03:49 PM
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Was this in the book?


One important question concerns a required physical that President Bush missed in 1972. Because of his absence, Mr. Bush lost his flying wings. Air National Guard regulations require that "the local commander who has authority to convene a Flying Evaluation Board will direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination." But there are no records of an investigation or of any requests to complete one.

There are various possible explanations. Perhaps the investigation was never concluded or never forwarded up the chain of command. The regulation says the commander "will" direct an investigation but it does not require the completed report to be forwarded up the chain of command. The commander "may" do so, but it is not required. The report could have been lost at lower levels.

Or perhaps, as journalist James C. Moore suggests in the liberal online magazine Salon, Mr. Bush thought the grounding would end his obligation to the Guard and was happy to let the matter drop. Or maybe, also a Moore speculation, there was a drug or alcohol induced reason for Mr. Bush's absence that he and his superiors wanted to avoid publicizing.

In 2000, Mr. Bush said he missed the physical because his family doctor was in Texas. But, as Time magazine reports, Air Force surgeons must perform the physicals and there was no surgeon shortage in Alabama. In March 2004, the White House said Mr. Bush did not need the physical because he was not flying. Regardless of these speculations, there is no record of any investigation in Mr. Bush's file. As Moore concludes, "A pilot simply did not walk away from all of that training with two years remaining on his tour of duty without a formal explanation as to what happened and why."

As for the highest profile issue, the available files do not clear up the "missing" section of the president's National Guard service. From May 1972 through May 1973 there are highly irregular records for his attendance at required drills, reports Walter Robinson in the Boston Globe. During that time, Mr. Bush had been given permission to move from his home base in Houston to Montgomery, Ala., to work on a Congressional campaign.

Until February of this year, no documents existed to suggest that Mr. Bush performed any duty in either Texas or Alabama during those months. Pay stubs released in February show that he was paid for enough days in Alabama to be judged "satisfactory," but that he did not do any duty between April 16 and October 28, 1972, and that he failed to show up for training in December 1972, February 1973 and March 1973.

There is nothing in the records from that key period beyond those pay stubs no evaluations from either Mr. Bush's Alabama supervisors or his Texas ones. In fact, Mr. Bush's Texas evaluators wrote on May 2, 1973 that, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report. A civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187th Tac Recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama." But no Alabama records exist. And Mr. Bush's official discharge papers include no evidence of any duty between May 1972 and October 1973, when he left the Guard.
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Actually it's number three.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/29/books/bestseller/0829besthardnonfiction.html
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You know why Tailgunner Joe was called "Tailgunner," right?

Think about it. It certainly wasn't because he served as a "tail gunner" in an Air Force plane during WWII. He didn't.

Think about it some more. Consider "tail" and "gunner" as a pejoritive sexual term.

Light bulb going off?

I kid you not.

Heh heh heh.
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:03 PM
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oops you are right. It has been replaced by General Tommy Franks book, another Bush supporter.
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:27 PM
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Think about it. It certainly wasn't because he served as a "tail gunner" in an Air Force plane during WWII. He didn't.

Think about it some more. Consider "tail" and "gunner" as a pejoritive sexual term.

Light bulb going off?

I kid you not.

Heh heh heh.
Its pretty well known that he and his whole circle were gay. Cohn, his right hand man who went on to a long career as the Karl Rove of his day died of AIDS, and may have gone as far as he did because he had the goods on another rightwing homosexual, Gay Edgar Hoover. In those deeply closet days when these men were forced to live lives of rank hypocrisy, alchoholism, drug addiction, blackmail, were the day to day stuff of their lives. These "patriots" were the men who lead the fight against "the red menace".

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Old 08-26-2004, 04:32 PM
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oops you are right. It has been replaced by General Tommy Franks book, another Bush supporter.
Tommy Franks, the guy who didn't request enough troops for Iraq as he kissed Bush's ass instead of showing some balls, resulting in thousands of people getting killed and insurgents and terrorists getting their hands on huge stockpiles of Saddam's unguarded arsenal? That Tommy Franks? Not the guy mostly responsible for the utter mess we are in, not him? What genius has risen to to the top! Backstabbing veterans and incompentant generals. Whose next, Rumsfeld going to write a book on how to run a military prison? I know all you rightwingers will run out to buy that one too.
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oops you are right. It has been replaced by General Tommy Franks book, another Bush supporter.
no it wasn't "replaced" this is the first week on the list.
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Old 08-26-2004, 05:50 PM
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Too bad Tommy Franks wasn't replaced. a lot of guys would be alive today.
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Can't wait to see the movie.
OH-oh-oh!

Michael Moore as director!

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