Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-04-2004, 11:03 AM
GermanStar's Avatar
Annelid wrangler
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 4,932
Schwarzenegger Ridiculed For Falsehoods In Speech

Governor Born When Austria Was Occupied By Wartime Allies

VIENNA, Austria -- Austrian scholars say California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger needs to brush up on the history of his homeland. (Click here for full text of Schwarzenegger's speech.)

It appears he got a few things wrong when he told the Republican National Convention this week that he saw Soviet tanks in the streets and left a "Socialist" country when he moved away.

Historians say there were no Soviet tanks in his hometown by the time he was born. Russian forces had left that area two years beforehand. And a conservative -- not Socialist -- was in charge in 1968.

But many ordinary Austrians were in forgiving moods Friday. One woman said he could have got it wrong because "it's so many years since he left." She said he probably had political reasons for the comments.

The historians are referring to the following portion of the governorís speech:

Tonight, I want to talk about why I'm even more proud to be an American -- why I'm proud to be a Republican and why I believe this country is in good hands.

When I was a boy, the Soviets occupied part of Austria. I saw their tanks in the streets. I saw communism with my own eyes. I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector.

Growing up, we were told, "Don't look the soldiers in the eye. Look straight ahead." It was a common belief that Soviet soldiers could take a man out of his own car and ship him off to the Soviet Union as slave labor.

My family didn't have a car -- but one day we were in my uncle's car. It was near dark as we came to a Soviet checkpoint. I was a little boy, I wasn't an action hero back then, and I remember how scared I was that the soldiers would pull my father or my uncle out of the car and I'd never see him again.

My family and so many others lived in fear of the Soviet boot. Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union and it is because of the United States of America! As a kid I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left. I love Austria and I love the Austrian people -- but I always knew America was the place for me. In school, when the teacher would talk about America, I would daydream about coming here.

I would sit for hours watching American movies transfixed by my heroes like John Wayne. Everything about America seemed so big to me so open, so possible. I finally arrived here in 1968. I had empty pockets, but I was full of dreams.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-04-2004, 01:17 PM
Zeitgeist's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cascadia
Posts: 2,304
Memories can be funny ever-changing little things

His good buddy Kurt Waldheim was a socialist--a National Socialist aka NAZI.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-04-2004, 03:47 PM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
Getting a history lesson from a politicians is like getting dating tips from Mike Tyson.

It is truly disappointing that both the DNC and RNC don't fact check speeches. The only explanation for the sloppy work is that they truly believe that the American voting public is just a collection of rubes and idiots.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-04-2004, 04:18 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTI
It is truly disappointing that both the DNC and RNC don't fact check speeches. The only explanation for the sloppy work is that they truly believe that the American voting public is just a collection of rubes and idiots.
We're not?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-04-2004, 04:33 PM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-04-2004, 08:59 PM
KirkVining's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,303
I thought Arnold's exagerration of seeing Soviet tanks rumble across Austria when the fact was they all left before he was even born a little unsettling, but along the line of Kerry's "Cambodia" story - a life story exaggeration that just about everybody engages in sometime in their lives, not quite a lie, but more a rememberance of some life event where the teller changes a few details to fit the moral of his tale. Arnold probably saw American tanks and Kerry may have been a few hundred yards from Cambodia, who knows. The thing that really matters in the end is that while this will not that big a deal for Arnold, Kerry gets crucified by the Karl Rove-Rush Limbaugh-Fox News machine. It is just another example of our new virtual Ministry of Information in action.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-04-2004, 11:26 PM
mplafleur's Avatar
User Friendly
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Lathrup Village, Michigan
Posts: 2,939
Soviet tanks, Cambodia at Christmas, burning churches... it's all the same.
__________________
Michael LaFleur

'05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles
'86 300SDL - 360,000 miles
'85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold)
'89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold)
'85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold)
'98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold)
'75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold)
'83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-(
'61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes
2004 Papillon (Oliver)
2005 Tzitzu (Griffon)
2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba)

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page