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Old 11-14-2004, 04:22 PM
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Sex Offender DB on the net

Here's something that might be worth the 10 bucks:

http://www.nationalalertregistry.com/cgi-bin/NAR_guest.cgi?GID=TkFSU3xDTU5BUjd8fHx8MXw=&current=new_index
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Old 11-14-2004, 04:30 PM
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A lot of states have their databases online for free. Might check for a free db for your state first...

Have there been any reports of 'vigilante justice' meted out to people whose pics and addresses are posted on these sites? It has occurred to me that these people could easily be targeted by their neighbors in ways that go beyond embarrassing leaflets.
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Old 11-14-2004, 04:50 PM
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A lot of states have their databases online for free. Might check for a free db for your state first...

Have there been any reports of 'vigilante justice' meted out to people whose pics and addresses are posted on these sites? It has occurred to me that these people could easily be targeted by their neighbors in ways that go beyond embarrassing leaflets.
Michigan has had the database for 5 years there have not been any problems so far.

One flaw that I think has been corrected is public urination offenders were listed with the bad guys.
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:08 AM
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A lot of states have their databases online for free. Might check for a free db for your state first...

Have there been any reports of 'vigilante justice' meted out to people whose pics and addresses are posted on these sites? It has occurred to me that these people could easily be targeted by their neighbors in ways that go beyond embarrassing leaflets.
Have you ever used one? They are difficult to use. For 10 bucks, they add all kinds of searchability. I've got two kids under 8 years of age, and a freaking sewer of humanity flows thru Houston to begin with. I don't know if my liberal sensibilities will be offended if the guy's house is set on fire or if he is found dangling from a tree. I worked in social services at one point with these type of characters, and came away with the opinion that certain classes of offenders should never be let out. I don't think there is any such thing as a "first offender" child molester who should only get 5 or 10 years, same thing with violent rapists. They should never get out. Never. They have an incurable criminal mental illness. If the states aren't smart enough to do that, then this is the best I can hope for.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:32 AM
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Mercedessop member W126 alerted me that Helmut Mauer, who owned the only indy MB only shop in Minnesota was caught with child porn. They're everywhere, I wonder if this guy did anything else and wasn't caught. Imagine all the folks going into his shop with little kids and all.

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_234141458.html
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:45 AM
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Last year Spock posted a link to find sex offenders in your area.

I did a search of Reston, VA. Luckily, there aren't any too near to me. But while looking through the database, I found out that my best friend, who lives in a group house nearby, has a convicted rapist for a housemate!!

The guy's a real jerk, stays out late all the time, and usually comes home drunk.

Fortunately, my friend is buying a house and will be out of there soon!
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:01 AM
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My wife did a search a couple of years ago on one of the free links and found that a guy leasing a house just across the street from ours was a registered sex offender...he molested a 9-year old girl...our daughter was 9 back then!

The thing was, he was prosecuted and did time almost a decade ago, so it may have been water under the bridge. Still, my wife alerted the rest of the neighborhood, and the first action was to move the school bus stops (which the first was in front of his house).

This guy lived with his girlfriend and mom, and pretty much kept to himself. Fortunately they moved out about a month later when their house construction was completed.

People usually profile a sex offender as some dirty homeless-looking drug and alcohol-addicted freak! But we live in a nice neighborhood, and the home he was renting was a pricey one. The house he finished building was even more expensive! And the few times I saw him puttering around the garage, he would have blended in well with the rest of the community.
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Old 11-15-2004, 02:05 PM
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Yes, they are everywhere and they could be anybody. Here in Houston they nailed one guy who was a right-wing talk radio host who liked to flash kids. You really never know. Like I said, its a mental illness more than a criminal behavior, and I think it is incurable so they should be locked up forever.
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:16 PM
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Yes, they are everywhere and they could be anybody. Here in Houston they nailed one guy who was a right-wing talk radio host who liked to flash kids. You really never know. Like I said, its a mental illness more than a criminal behavior, and I think it is incurable so they should be locked up forever.
Haven't some jurisdictions considered chemical castration?
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:24 PM
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Its legal in Texas, but it has to be voluntary. I don't think it works. We had one taker, they let him out, and he just committed more crimes, a couple were violating parole restrictions like hanging around playgrounds and such. Sex gratification is only part, and it may not even be a necessary part, of this mental illness. Like rape, its really all about exerting power over the powerless. One theory is that our innate predatory instinct, surppressed by eons of civilization, has gone haywire in child molestors and rapists. They are in effect, predators among us as dangerous as wolves or lions running loose in a shopping mall. Until we find some type of cure, we should deal with them only one way -lock em up, throw away the key. This is not criminal behavior in some wayward youth who might change his way - it is permenant behavior.
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I'm planning a family soon. I hope I'll never have to encounter one of these freaks
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:39 PM
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Here's a link on the nutless wonder I was talking about:

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/relatedarticles/26457.php

Dude, I've raised 5 boys. We watch them like hawks. The days when they could just roam the neighbors on bicycles are over. Everything I let them do now until they are full grown is supervised, and I admint, I get worried when they walk a few doors down to the neighbors. It's not surprising - years ago experiments with lab animals show that as population denisty rises, this type of behavior increases. Since it is on an upward curve, take the necessary precautions.
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:47 PM
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I did a search for local sexual predators and was surprised to see how many lived so close to me. One, right between where my daughter would walk to school. The site even said what car the person drove, and when I drove by the house, sure enough the truck was there.

On the other hand I saw (on the website, it had each charge and explanation of that charge) a 19yr old boy/man who had sex with an underage girl. But he was now on the sexual predator list. Since the girl was 15 or 16, is this the same thing?

The other night I saw a show about police stings. One was busting men having sex in a public restroom that was known for such. The men were arrested throughout the day, and said they would end up on the sexual predator list. In your opinion, is this the same thing?

I certainly don't think that two men should be having sex in a public place. They should be arrested for that crap. But should they be labeled a sexual predator for the remainder of their life? How about a 19 yr old kid who has sex with a girl who is still in HS? Is he really a sexual predator? An idiot maybe, but a predator? What are your thoughts?

To me these people are not the same as somebody who commits lewd acts on kids. Which I believe has no cure either.
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:59 PM
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I don't know man, I knew when I was 18 that 15 would get you 20, and I never dipped into the sweet stuff after that age, because prison seemed less appealing than college. I spent that period of my life in Florida and Texas, states that really enforced statutory laws, and I was smart enough to figure out how to stay out of the local paper, not to mention southern prisons, where a skinny ass yankee white boy was going to get a first hand education on sex crime. Perhaps there should be a provision where the guy can appeal to the judge during his trial that the circumstances don't warrant being included being on the list.

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Old 11-15-2004, 07:05 PM
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I have posted before that I am wishy-washy on the death penalty. I am unequivocably in favor of the death penalty for child molesters.

Ditto that F-um.

A freind of mine is a sheriffs department detective, he was interviewing an ass that admitted to intercourse with his 14 year old daughter. She told the investigator that he also sodomized her, when the investigator asked him about it he said..."I would never do something like that to my daughter" As if it's OK to just have sex.

He told me this story to make his point that I could never be a cop because he know's that there is no way I could restrain myself from killing the SOB.
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