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davidmash 11-29-2004 12:44 AM

The Philadelphia Experiment
 
Someone at work mentioned this to me. Sounds very hair brained and fishy.

Anyone have any opinions?

One would think that is this was done in 1943 that it would be in use today, at the very least to transport goods and not people.

Who knows, maybe it is but the government just is not telling us? I guess stranger things could happen.

elau 11-29-2004 12:58 AM

Yes, I read a book about Philadelphia Experiment long time ago. Supposedly the military was conducting teleportation experiment between Philadelphia Naval shipyard and Virginia Beach/Norfolk Naval Base based on Eistein's Theory of Relativity. The experiment was a success, but tradegically when the ship reappeared in Norfolk, all the sailors on board somehow melt into the infrastructure. Some died but some were still barely alive. What amazed me was the list of names of the sailors in the back of the book. Can't tell if it was a true event or not. Fun reading nonetheless.

MedMech 11-29-2004 07:54 AM

There was a movie about it as well. I find it far fetched that they would use a large ship instead of a dingy to test the theory.

boneheaddoctor 11-29-2004 09:03 AM

I think it was purely the result of someones imagination.......

Look at the state of technology then........

nellotare 11-29-2004 09:54 AM

I have seen several TV shows regarding the Experiment and read a little about it. I was not under the impression that it was "teleportation" but rather "cloaking" a ship so radar could not detect it. Supposedly the ship did "vanish" for a few seconds from the site of observers not on the vessel. Also, supposedly, several crewman spent the rest of their lives "phasing".. fading slowly from sight of watching family members.. then coming back into full view. But no real proof of anything about the Experiment that I know of exists today.

info: http://www.softwareartist.com/philexp.html

davidmash 11-29-2004 11:27 AM

From what I have read over the past few days cloaking (from radar) was the objective but during one of the trials, the ship did disappear and "transported" to a different location and then "came back"

Most Sailors were violently sick and a few were "melted into the superstructure" of the ship.

As far as size, from what one of the articles indicated, the generators, coils, magnets ... etc were huge so a dingy would not be an option. Why it was tested with a full crew complement seem ludicrous but the government has a history of doing stupid things like that so it would not surprise me n the least.

I guess the thing that makes it unbelievable for me is that there is no indication that further study was done. The ability to transport something “through space and time” seems like it would be a very desirable ability to possess and there is no indication that we can do it today. One would think that in 60 years we might have refined it a bit.

crash9 11-29-2004 12:39 PM

Yes for sure. I’ve heard that many of the crew disappeared when going for cigarettes or just a quart of milk. The ship grew rust like red areas from the crew that had been fused into the metal --------------------Here comes another one --- Pete can you see it????

Hatterasguy 11-29-2004 12:53 PM

I'm pretty sure it is a tall tail. If it did take place and was successful they would have persued it. Even if the crew died that technology would be very valuable.

GermanStar 11-29-2004 12:54 PM

Yes, I'm sure it's all quite real, but then again, I also believe in Klingons and Romulans.....

Hatterasguy 11-29-2004 01:00 PM

Well their was a show on the History channel awhile back that pretty much destroyed it. The Philadelphia wasn't in port at the time and I guess the captian and crew said that it was a crazy story. Sailors talk their is no way something like that could be kept a secret.

But it sure does make for some good science fiction reading.

GermanStar 11-29-2004 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
But it sure does make for some good science fiction reading.

True, although I don't find it nearly as compelling as Roswell....

R Leo 11-29-2004 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
I'm pretty sure it is a tall tail. If it did take place and was successful they would have persued it. Even if the crew died that technology would be very valuable.

If it DID work, how would you ever know? :D

Botnst 11-29-2004 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by R Leo
If it DID work, how would you ever know? :D

It explains everything from Judge Crater to Elvis.

KirkVining 11-29-2004 03:18 PM

You skeptical guys don't know anything. It is common knowledge this ship appears on the 15th of every month at Area 51, and it is on this ship where the Roswell Space Aliens are kept from public view. Also, it is well known that on this very same day, alien abductees are boarded, so the space aliens can experiment on them as the ship passes into the 5th Dimension. Not only that, as the ship is teleported, it sends off high-band signals that affect corn crops by cutting strange circles in them. If you wake up and see a heiroglyph cut into your corn crop, you know the Philly has flown over your neighborhood. If you don't beleive me, refer to Nostradamus, 33rd Quatrain, verses 81 thru 99.

R Leo 11-29-2004 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining
It is common knowledge this ship appears on the 15th of every month at Area 51.

I've never, ever seen it, not even once. And that's the truth.

boneheaddoctor 11-29-2004 03:35 PM

Is it time to break out the Foil hats yet?

H-townbenzoboy 11-29-2004 06:45 PM

Remember, it's wax paper that does the job best, not foil. :D
-Joe

nellotare 11-29-2004 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining
as the ship passes into the 5th Dimension.

I saw the 5th Dimension once..

and, yes, they were great!

"when the moon is in the 7th House there's one less bell to answer"

boneheaddoctor 11-29-2004 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by H-townbenzoboy
Remember, it's wax paper that does the job best, not foil. :D
-Joe


Oh darn.......that must be why I still hear all those voices....I've been using foil hats to keep them out of my brain........

MedMech 11-29-2004 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirkVining
You skeptical guys don't know anything. It is common knowledge this ship appears on the 15th of every month at Area 51, and it is on this ship where the Roswell Space Aliens are kept from public view. Also, it is well known that on this very same day, alien abductees are boarded, so the space aliens can experiment on them as the ship passes into the 5th Dimension. Not only that, as the ship is teleported, it sends off high-band signals that affect corn crops by cutting strange circles in them. If you wake up and see a heiroglyph cut into your corn crop, you know the Philly has flown over your neighborhood. If you don't beleive me, refer to Nostradamus, 33rd Quatrain, verses 81 thru 99.

Du scheißt' mich an
:D

KirkVining 11-29-2004 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nellotare
I saw the 5th Dimension once..

and, yes, they were great!

"when the moon is in the 7th House there's one less bell to answer"

"up up and away in my beautiful battle cruiser" was always my favorite.

MTI 11-29-2004 08:02 PM

There's a movie about it, so it must be true! :D

Philadelphia Experiment
Studio: Anchor Bay
Year: 1984
101 minutes

Category: Sci-Fi/Fantasy, Time Travel

Actor/Actors: Bobby Di Cicco, Eric Christmas, Kene Holliday, Louise Latham, Michael Pare, Nancy Allen, Stephen Tobolowsky

Direction: Stewart Raffill

Synopsis: The experiment that should never have happened 41 years ago...is still going on. Philadelphia, 1943: A top-secret experiment is underway to make U.S. Navy ships invisible to enemy radar, but something goes horribly wrong, and the Battleship Eldridge disappears. Two sailors jump overboard--and are mysteriously transported 41 years into the future. On the run and trapped by the past, can they stop the experiment that has torn a hole in time? Michael Pare (Eddie and the Cruisers) and Nancy Allen (Carrie, Dressed to Kill) star, executive produced by "Halloween" creator John Carpenter!

MS Fowler 11-29-2004 09:47 PM

Kirk,
You do this so well its scary!
( Helps me put some of your past political rants into some kind of perspective!) :)

KirkVining 11-29-2004 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by R Leo
I've never, ever seen it, not even once. And that's the truth.

You have to wear 3-d glasses to see it. You probably don't have proper clearance, in any case. And even if you ask the aliens, they won't tell you.

R Leo 11-29-2004 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining
You have to wear 3-d glasses to see it. You probably don't have proper clearance, in any case. And even if you ask the aliens, they won't tell you.

Hah! Look at my location and tell me I don't have clearance! I AM Area 51.

KirkVining 11-29-2004 10:23 PM

If that were the truth, you would have sent me a Z-ray by now. Either your Ainiod Reciever is not properly oriented towards Zlogon, or I have lost one of my fillings.

GermanStar 11-29-2004 10:46 PM

And then, what if a fly enters the teleporation chamber? :smhair:

webwench 11-29-2004 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tkamiya
If you were to transport something, there are two ways of doing it...

1) Analyze the original and replicate the duplicate at the destination.
2) Break the original into a molecular level, convert the matter into energy, and do the reverse at the other end.

...If you do 1, what do you do with the original?

There's a short sci-fi story about scenario #1 that centers around the planned murder of the original after 'transmission'. Sure wish I could recall the author.

There's another Stephen King short story about a teleportation system in the future being used for mass transport, only you have to be sedated to go through the teleportation. In the story, a curious boy palms his medicine because he wants to see what's inside the teleporter. He comes out the other side insane, gray-haired, and screaming that "it's forever in there". Shudder.

My understanding is, in the experiments that have been done so far with teleporting single molecules and such, a copy is created using the matter available at the destination.

elau 11-29-2004 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
I'm pretty sure it is a tall tail. If it did take place and was successful they would have persued it. Even if the crew died that technology would be very valuable.

Ha, that's is exactly what the government wants you to believe. They turn the truth into lies, and vice versa. This way you can't tell which way is which.

I swear, people who really know the truth are trying to warn the populace. Look at the space time continum commercial from CDW. See what I mean????

davidmash 11-29-2004 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tkamiya
What happens then, if you juuuuuust don't have enough material at the other end? or worse, have parts left over? :eek:

Put them back in the box and hope no know notices.

Botnst 11-30-2004 07:23 AM

One word, "Tachyons".


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