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MedMech 12-08-2004 05:53 PM

New Smoke Pole (Muzzleloader)
 
I stopped by the gun shop for supplies and ended up with a new Thompson Center Omega, my main blackpowder gun is a Ultimate Firearm BP Express but it's heavy and thumps the bad neck a little to hard, while the Omega is a muck better gun for sneaking and hunting in heavy cover.

The Zeiss scope will also help in the low light pine forest that I do my winter hunting in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h/Newomega.jpg

MedMech 12-08-2004 06:00 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ewomega024.jpg

Zeitgeist 12-08-2004 06:01 PM

Ignorance calling: What's the point of a muzzleloader? I honestly don't have a clue.

MedMech 12-08-2004 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist
Ignorance calling: What's the point of a muzzleloader? I honestly don't have a clue.

Blackpowder, you load it through the business end. Like a modern day Davey Crockett.

Zeitgeist 12-08-2004 08:07 PM

Ya, I understand the concept, but why in this day and age? I guess I could understand if it applied to the whole "recreate a bygone era" thing, but that gun looks just like any other modern weapon. I'm really not trying to be argumentative, but I'm largely ignorant about guns in general, and this particular branch of interest in specific.

Botnst 12-08-2004 09:01 PM

IN LA muzzleloaders get an extended hunting season with the big plus in that being you're less likely to get shot by some numbskull who can't tell hunter orange from deer hair.

MedMech 12-08-2004 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist
Ya, I understand the concept, but why in this day and age? I guess I could understand if it applied to the whole "recreate a bygone era" thing, but that gun looks just like any other modern weapon. I'm really not trying to be argumentative, but I'm largely ignorant about guns in general, and this particular branch of interest in specific.

First special seasons(extended hunting), second they are permitted in shotgun only area's. Muzzleloaders are normally much more accurate than slug lobbing shotguns although modern sabot technology levels the playing field a bit.

Personally I prefer the muzzleloader for that one shot is all you got nostalgia. The huge report and a puff of black smoke makes the experience a bit more interesting. You diesel guys should be able to relate to that.

Zeitgeist 12-08-2004 09:48 PM

Thanks. Yes, I do feel an instant affinity, though I may just try to lodge a potato in my tailpipe for similar effect.

MedMech 12-08-2004 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist
Thanks. Yes, I do feel an instant affinity, though I may just try to lodge a potato in my tailpipe for similar effect.


Haha, on a foggy day the smoke lingers forever, the only way you know you connected it the thwack or thud------I prefer twuuds over both.

rickg 12-09-2004 10:25 AM

Sheesh! A muzzle loader with a scope. :D
I have an old black powder pistol I made form a kit some 30 years ago, and a scope wouldn't do that thing a bit of good. ;) Half the fun of it is just trying to hit something with it....anything! Wouldn't even think of trying to hit a moving target.

Jim Anderson 12-09-2004 11:23 AM

Possible stupid question
 
Can you use smokeless powder in a muzzleloader?

boneheaddoctor 12-09-2004 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Anderson
Can you use smokeless powder in a muzzleloader?


Don't think that would be wise......burn rates are different.

boneheaddoctor 12-09-2004 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by narwhal
The archery/muzzleloader season here is called "primitive weapon season." With guns like this coming out, methinks the titles need reworking :rolleyes:

ALTHOUGH, I understand that where Med hunts you can't use centerfire rifles on deer, so I am NOT dissing his use of this fancy weapon. :D

In PA and MD you can't use Semi-automatic riffles unless you are confined to a wheelchair, and then it has to be plugged to take no more than 3 rounds.....many places have restrictions that vary.

All muzzle loader rifles only get one shot.....adn reloads do take far more than 5 seconds.....accuracy?..................the old sharps rifle of the 1800's was legendary for its accuracy...........I think that was a muzzle loader, or was that a falling block breach loader rifle. Anyway, some of the old muzzle loaders were damed good.......as good as these new ones, which work on same principles only look modern.

Of course there is a big difference between a flint lock and a percussion cap rifle........

MikeTangas 12-09-2004 12:21 PM

Looks pretty slick MM. Once my shoulder can take the impact I would like to run a couple hunks of lead through it. No idea what you're pushing, but with my .50 I was pushing 375 gr Maxi-balls with 110 gr of FFF. After 10 shots the cheek bone begins to bruise, don't ask how I know.

el presidente 12-09-2004 12:25 PM

Me likey :)

Just wondering...is it still legal to mail-order muzzleloaders?


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