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Old 01-24-2005, 11:01 PM
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Think about it...

A discussion started as friends and I were playing golf the other day. We were all agreed on this. People that drive higher end cars, ie Mercedes, BMWs, etc... and live in higher end neighborhoods, are people that have attended college for four or more years and could generally be considered very successful, are usually on the right. We started asking other people at our country club, and the end results were 95% right, 5% left. Our hypothesis was correct. The higher the annual income and education the higher chance of being on the right. It is a combination of the two. That also explains why Hollywood, although rich is not educated. Any opinion? No flames please!

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Old 01-24-2005, 11:07 PM
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A discussion started as friends and I were playing golf the other day. We were all agreed on this. People that drive higher end cars, ie Mercedes, BMWs, etc... and live in higher end neighborhoods, are people that have attended college for four or more years and could generally be considered very successful, are usually on the right. We started asking other people at our country club, and the end results were 95% right, 5% left. Our hypothesis was correct. The higher the annual income and education the higher chance of being on the right. It is a combination of the two. That also explains why Hollywood, although rich is not educated. Any opinion? No flames please!
Funny, I did the same thing down at the local soup kitchen; exact opposite!

You might want to pose this question to George Soros. He may quibble with your definition of "higher end" though...
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:11 PM
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First,you should define "educated".

There are many people I've met who's public education may have stopped at the high school level,yet due to their all-encompassing curiosity and thirst for knowledge,combined with a straight focus on their goals may be considered the equals in "worldly success" of any Harvard or Yale MBA>
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:19 PM
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I r knot edumacated, but doo drive a bens.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:21 PM
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I'm talking "formal" education, mixed with a capitalistic attitude toward money. Typical Mercedes owner.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:26 PM
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maybe its a phase...

Folks,

OK, so the quasi rich are more right. Seems some of the REALLY rich are the liberals. The Kennedys are certainly successful, and on the left. Kerry/ Heinz... really rich and left... Rockefeller - really rich and left

On second thought, I wonder if the generation that really made the money would be more conservative. The generation that grew up with it as status quo is willing to give more away. Hmmm. Thoughts?

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Old 01-24-2005, 11:37 PM
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Edited. Changed my mind- not getting into it.
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Old 01-25-2005, 12:28 AM
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Maybe we can do a cross tabulation of shoe size foot size, car preference and political leanings at a future time? Maybe it’ll turn out that if you have a bigger right foot you’ll prefer a MB but lean to the left where if you have a bigger left foot you’ll just wear out your brakes more? I dunno. It might be fun
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:40 AM
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Wow, usually when I see someone write "think about it" it's at the end of a moronic thought.
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:22 AM
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I agree, demographics can point towards the concept of more high end car owners being educated with a four year degree or higher, however, political demographics seem to vary regionally- take Orange County, Ca. for example. Primarily a right region, with an above average annual household income, most residents have a 4 year degree or higher, and also boasts onee of the highest mercedes-benz per-capita volumes in the nation. But then you could look at a place like the Bay Area for instance- generally speaking is a slightly higher than avg. to high income area, most residents having a 4 year degree or higher, more left than right, and also boasts a much higher than average amount of upper end cars lining the streets and highways.

That said, i will admit, Ca. is much different from many other places in the nation, but just for perspective, thats my 02.c
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Old 01-25-2005, 08:24 AM
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I'm talking "formal" education, mixed with a capitalistic attitude toward money. Typical Mercedes owner.
Hmmm- maybe in North America. Other parts of the world appear to be quite different. When you see news footage from the Middle East, North Africa, Greece, even Eastern Europe- take note of all of the MB's driving by the camera- granted they are older ones mostly. It may be that MB's are bought worldwide because they "go forever", whereas in our hemisphere, they are a status symbol. It would make sense in the developing world that if one can afford a car at all, it is best to get one that you will hand down to your children and grandchildren.

I get remarks since I got my '76 Mercedes like "you're moving up in the world eh?" I always reply "no- it's a 29 year old car that I paid $3500 for and if I look after it well, it'll never be worth less than that- can you say the same about your brand new Oldsmobile?".

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Be careful. You guys might get "moderated" for being smart enough to discuss the demographics of political leanings.



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Old 01-25-2005, 09:42 AM
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The paradox is that you can speak of group characteristics without any real person in the group possesing that trait.

I would think that any group you pick between the second and 98th percentile would exhibit "normal" non-deviant characteristics. It's the outlyers on either end which behave weird.
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:29 PM
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Be careful. You guys might get "moderated" for being smart enough to discuss the demographics of political leanings.



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Demographics are fascinating. While it's true that they do represent the Majority of people, and cannot include all fringe people. That is the purpose of a general demographic survey- To give you the majority opinion of people that are in a specific criteria profile. The results are sometimes against what we might have thought they would be. But good data supports itself. It always amazes me that many people don't actually want to know the end results, or would argue that the survey must be flawed, if it interfers with their preconcieved ideas. I welcome your thoughts, leave the insults to the "morons and idiots" please.
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:54 PM
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Conclusions are frequently based on perspective. I could conclude from your little foray at the country club that people draped in materialism tend to be more self-involved and less compassionate than others, hence their bent toward the right. My point is that there are lots of educated, "successful" people in this country who would shun the lifestyle you covet.

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