What a laugh…

[Lebenz]

TIME TO GET OVER IT!

BOSTON, April 10 (AP) - Many voters in last year's election were denied access to the polls through trickery and intimidation, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts told a voters' group on Sunday.

"Last year, too many people were denied their right to vote; too many who tried to vote were intimidated," Mr. Kerry said at an event sponsored by the League of Women Voters of Massachusetts.

He cited examples of trickery. "Leaflets are handed out saying Democrats vote on Wednesday, Republicans vote on Tuesday," Mr. Kerry said. "People are told in telephone calls that if you've ever had a parking ticket, you're not allowed to vote."

Mr. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee, has never disputed the outcome of the election, saying voting irregularities did not involve enough votes to change the result.

The Republican National Committee dismissed Mr. Kerry's comments. "While President Bush and members of Congress are working to move our country forward, it's disappointing that some Democrats are focused on rehashing baseless allegations more than five months after the election," said a committee spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/11/p...s/11kerry.html?

[boneheaddoctor]

The Democratic party is on its way out...........and its over due......

Time for the libertarinans to step up to the plate and gain more prominance..

[H2O2]

...ha ha ha...ah, electoral fraud and chicanery never ceases to crack me up.

[boneheaddoctor]

Originally Posted by H2O2

...ha ha ha...ah, electoral fraud and chicanery never ceases to crack me up.

Nothing like self delusion.......Democrats are experts in that field.

[Lebenz]

Originally Posted by H2O2

...ha ha ha...ah, electoral fraud and chicanery never ceases to crack me up.

You make a good and stinging point. The article is ambiguous that this action is anything but deceiving of those who are easily deceived. Not that that happens a lot or anything….

Is there any way to hold an election without deceiving folks. No wait, I didn’t mean that.

How about this: Is there any way to make it possible for those who are easily deceived to still vote?

[boneheaddoctor]

Originally Posted by Lebenz

You make a good and stinging point. The article is ambiguous that this action is anything but deceiving of those who are easily deceived. Not that that happens a lot or anything….

Is there any way to hold an election without deceiving folks. No wait, I didn’t mean that.

How about this: Is there any way to make it possible for those who are easily deceived to still vote?

The eisily decieve do vote......for Democrats..........

[H2O2]

Neither of the corrupt major parties has a monopoly on deceptive practices or fixations with past elections...just look at all the Republican sniveling about the last governor's election here in Warshington--a pox on both their houses.

[boneheaddoctor]

Originally Posted by H2O2

Neither of the corrupt major parties has a monopoly on deceptive practices or fixations with past elections...just look at all the Republican sniveling about the last governor's election here in Warshington--a pox on both their houses.

OH I never said the Republicans are without sin......I was only pointing out the democrats have based their entire platform on decieving its people. As evidenced the last election.

[Lebenz]

Originally Posted by H2O2

Neither of the corrupt major parties has a monopoly on deceptive practices or fixations with past elections...just look at all the Republican sniveling about the last governor's election here in Warshington--a pox on both their houses.

I'm not sure who will snivel last or loudest on the recent local election, nor am I sure who has wrought the greater deception in the process, but I agree that corruption is rampant, perhaps even the definitive commonality if not balancing point of our political system. Given this, why then do so many choose to happily, even gleefully slam what they perceive as the other side? It seems a pox has been spread to nearly everyone. Or perhaps the truth, if indeed there is any truth, has simply been hidden by layer upon layer of deception….

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by H2O2

Neither of the corrupt major parties has a monopoly on deceptive practices or fixations with past elections...just look at all the Republican sniveling about the last governor's election here in Warshington--a pox on both their houses.

Aaaa-men, brudda!

'round here, the cemeteries empty on election day. Mostly Democratic.

Meanwhile, the Repos play the voter challenge game. It sounds reasonable and it is legal. You know, somebody shows up at the poll without the voter registration card or a picture ID but has his/her utility bill, etc. Now believe it or not, there are folks who don't drive (no picture ID) and don't know WTF they did with their voter registration card (uh, like me...). So they show-up at the poll with several bills in their name to their address. The poll watcher automatically challenges every one of those IF THEY ARE NOT REPUBLICAN. Again, perfectly legal. And it works.

The voters get pissed-off and leave or go away thinking there's a vast rightwing (white) conspiracy working against them (naaah, couldn't be).

Delusion has settled over America. Washington cannot tell fact from fantasy. Neither can sycophantic media nor nothink economists.

The Bush administration is the first government in history to initiate a war based entirely on fantasy--fantasy about nonexistent "weapons of mass destruction," fantasy about nonexistent "terrorist links," fantasy about "liberating" a people from their culture, fantasy about a "cakewalk" invasion, fantasy about America's omnipotence.

Reality has yet to penetrate the Oval Office or America's "red state" consciousness. The gratuitous invasion of Iraq, the torture and the war crimes have made America despised the world over. Our once formidable alliances are shattered.

The Muslim world, which perceives America as Israel's enabler of Palestine's oppression, has uniformly turned against us.

$300 billion--red ink to the last cent--has been wasted in a pointless war and occupation that has emboldened Islamic revolutionaries, who will be more successful than the US in changing the face of the Middle East.

Bush's invasion of Iraq has proved the limits of America's "hegemonic" military power: Eight heavily armored high tech US divisions are tied down by a few thousand lightly armed insurgents who control most of the roads and many towns and cities.

Any Iraqi collaborator with the US occupation who is foolish enough to leave the heavily fortified "Green Zone" is shot down or blown up in the streets.

Such an outcome is proclaimed a "success" by the White House, Republican politicians and a cheerleading media.

The reality is that an ignorant and blundering Bush administration has created a Shi'ite crescent from Iran to Lebanon that is revolutionizing the Middle East. The reality will not penetrate the Bush administration. Reality contradicts Bush fantasy and is "against us." Facts that don't support Bush fantasy are "liberal" and "anti-American." Truth is dismissed as anti-Bush propaganda.

It is America that has undergone regime change. The Bush administration constitutes a Jacobin revolution. Its fanatics have declared world war on political diversity. The first victim of Bush's "war on terror" is the Bill of Rights. In its place we have an incipient police state.

One might easily conclude that Bush is first among the deluded, but the more one observes economists' romance with outsourcing, the more one wonders if economists are not the most deluded of all.

Outsourcing converts domestic supplied goods and services into imports. It divorces Americans from the incomes and careers associated with the production of the goods and services that Americans consume.

That divorce is highly detrimental for Americans. As foreign labor is substituted for US labor in the production of tradable goods and services, the displaced US work force seeks employment in domestic services that cannot be outsourced. This increases the supply of labor, thus depressing wages, in those labor markets already impacted by the entry of high rates of legal and illegal immigration.

By turning domestic production into imports, outsourcing increases the trade deficit. America pays the import bill by turning over the ownership of her wealth, and the income streams that wealth produces, to foreigners. Thus, Americans not only lose jobs and careers but also the ownership of their companies, real estate, corporate and government bonds. The incomes from these lost assets pass from Americans to foreigners.

Today America's consumption and the government's budget deficits are financed by foreigners, principally Asians. There are now so many dollars in foreign hands that the willingness of foreigners to hold more is declining. For the past three years foreign central banks have been diversifying their reserve holdings away from dollars into other currencies.

The result has been to drive the value of the dollar down sharply against many other currencies. As prices adjust to the changed currency values, Americans become poorer.

When economists preach that America benefits from outsourcing, they deny all the hard facts, just as do Republicans when they proclaim "success" in Iraq. How does America benefit from a process that destroys jobs, lowers incomes, and reduces the exchange value of the dollar?

What outsourcing is doing for America is destroying entire sectors of US manufacturing, entire high tech occupations, the value of a college education, . the design and innovative capabilities of the US economy, and the dollar as reserve currency. This is a lot of destruction. It goes far beyond what terrorists can inflict.

So far in the 21st century, the US has experienced a net loss of jobs. Fewer Americans are employed today than when President Bush was first inaugurated. This has not happened since the Great Depression in the 1930s.

When economists claim that the US is made better off by outsourcing, they ignore the evidence of job loss, stagnant incomes, and a collapsing dollar.

A perfect example is a recent "study" by three economists reported in the March 21 issue of Barron's. The economists used economic models to calculate the benefits to Americans of outsourcing. An economic model is comprised of assumptions about relationships. Many relationships are historical and reflect America's post-World War II economic dominance, which is no longer the reality.

The economists concluded that the benefits to Americans from outsourcing ranged from $7,100 to $12,900 per household.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average hourly wages of private, nonfarm, nonsupervisory production workers produced an annual income of $33,072 as of February 2005.

Only economists completely detached from reality could believe that American households owe such a large percentage of income to outsourcing, which is threatening them with a depreciating currency and the loss of their jobs and careers.

One of the dumbest defenses of outsourcing is the claim that history shows that America benefits from free trade. First of all, there has been precious little free trade. Economists mean that America has benefitted from trade during the decades following World War II when the rest of the world was recovering from war or smothered in socialism. It is easy to benefit from trade when you are the only economy.

Second, outsourcing is not trade; it is labor arbitrage. Outsourcing is a new phenomena birthed by the collapse of world socialism and the rise of the high speed internet. It reflects the operation not of "comparative advantage" but of "absolute advantage" --the flow of capital and technology across borders to the cheapest labor. Outsourcing is the substitution of foreign labor for domestic labor. It reduces the demand for domestic labor and drives down incomes.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: pcroberts@postmark.net

[Botnst]

I knew it, it is all Bush's fault. There, that sure simplifies my life.

[boneheaddoctor]

When was the Muslim world EVER on our side? Heres a hint..................NEVER.......they are still fixated in the 7th century........

the root of every problem including Aids is the fault of the democrats.

[A264172]

Originally Posted by Lebenz

"Last year, too many people were denied their right to vote; too many who tried to vote were intimidated," Mr. Kerry said at an event sponsored by the League of Women Voters of Massachusetts.

He cited examples of trickery. "Leaflets are handed out saying Democrats vote on Wednesday, Republicans vote on Tuesday," Mr. Kerry said. "People are told in telephone calls that if you've ever had a parking ticket, you're not allowed to vote."

No wonder he lost... this guy would say we need health care for cows if the dariy farmers could get him elected.

It was the anything goes that fits the marketing plan mentality that sunk this guy.

To devote more than one sentence to idiots being tricked out of there right to vote... like if the idiots had there way I would have been a little closer to being president... its a bunch Terry S. type classic political Bull Crap.


PS You linked to the members login page not the article.

[boneheaddoctor]

The Democratic party is a has-been party.....they acted like a bunch of gradeschool kids throwing a temper tantrum that everyone didn't believe their BS and lies about everything.

It would be funny as hell if it wasn't so pathetic.....that 48% of the population is dumb enough to believe what the democratic party trys to tell you.

at least 52% and growing portion of the public are intelligent enough to see through the democrats lies.