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Old 04-27-2005, 08:04 PM
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Are we in trouble? More nuclear power plants?

Is this the right way to proceded?

Where are we goining here?

My opinion is that we are stepping backward........one step at a time please!

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Old 04-27-2005, 08:32 PM
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Is this the right way to proceded?

Where are we goining here?

My opinion is that we are stepping backward........one step at a time please!
OH the tree huggers are having a collective coronary now in their communes...................
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Old 04-27-2005, 08:40 PM
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the answer is not building more (potentially) dangerous and expensive plants. the answer is more efficient and intelligent use of energy.
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Old 04-27-2005, 08:43 PM
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Contrary to BHD's "made up opinion", there is environmentalist support for nuclear power. Last year, Hugh Montefiore, a former Anglican bishop and trustee in the UK's Friends of the Earth, resigned his post in the organization when he came out in support for nuclear power by writing "I have now come to the conclusion that the solution to global warming is to make more use of nuclear energy." Greenpeace's co-founder, Patrick Moore, left the organization when he turned pro-nuke. Last December, the National Commission on Energy Policy (with board members from environmental policy groups) issued a report that called for more investment in the nuclear industry. The Union of Concerned Scientist also has a growing pro-nuke faction. While these positions cannot be called "mainstream" . . . there is no solidarity among "tree-huggers" as to the evils of nuclear power.
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Old 04-27-2005, 08:44 PM
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Well, all I can say to this subject is that it looks like we are going backward!

Does not the events that occurred at Chernobyl Russia mean anything, (Murphy's Law) so why do we want to relaunch a known carcinogen, or waiting time bomb!

Seems we have progressed beyond, and with an understanding why! Or is all of that being unbundled, and re-presented as a GOOD alternative by W as a short measure to stem the inevitable tide?

If so, and the new ignorant, who haven't lived long enough to know the threat, are thinking along with W, we are doomed! Time to stand up, if this is the case!
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Old 04-27-2005, 08:48 PM
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the answer is not building more (potentially) dangerous and expensive plants. the answer is more efficient and intelligent use of energy.
Compared to other technologies, "next generation" nuclear power is a ready and proven way to reduce carbon emissions and address current and future energy consumption. An hour of coal generated 100W bulb light creates 0.05 pounds of carbon emissions, a bucket of ice generates 0.3 pounds and one hour in most cars creates 5 pounds . . . nuclear is 0.
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Old 04-27-2005, 08:50 PM
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Well, all I can say to this subject is that it looks like we are going backward!

Does not the events that occurred at Chernobyl Russia mean anything, (Murphy's Law) so why do we want to relaunch a known carcinogen, or waiting time bomb!

Seems we have progressed beyond, and with an understanding why! Or is all of that being unbundled, and re-presented as a GOOD alternative by W as a short measure to stem the inevitable tide?

If so, and the new ignorant, who haven't lived long enough to know the threat, are thinking along with W, we are doomed! Time to stand up, if this is the case!
There is only three choices.......#1 Nuclear power.........#2 Coal........or #3 continue being raped by the &*^%$ arabs.

Going back to Coal fired plants is a step backwards........but either #1 or #2 is better than #3
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Does not the events that occurred at Chernobyl Russia mean anything, (Murphy's Law) so why do we want to relaunch a known carcinogen, or waiting time bomb!
Nuclear power technology hasn't stood still since 3 Mile Island or Chernobyl, which were basically designed after propulsion plants for submarines. Current designs are much more efficient, employ passive safety technology and other advancements. It's like comparing the safety system in a car designed in the 1950's to one that rolled off the line yesterday.
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:03 PM
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Boy, I didn't think this issue would ever come back to light! I thought we spent a decade and a half proving why this energy alternative was not in our favor. But with the W, it does not really surprise me!

I have come today to a conclusion about REPUBLICANS....they are greedy and care only about making lots of money, thus being superior, smarter, upper level human beings, elite class, and dumb liberals who have humanity understandings, those who are wanting to give help, REPUBLICANS do not like tax dollars going to the inferior, it is why they complain about spending an additional $36 to help people who are born in our society who cannot achieve because they are not born with the brain needs to support themselves. REPUBLICANS would likely vote to have them exterminated from society instead.

REPUBLICANS are selfish, and a greedy sort, and the power is in there realm, and is why I scared..................Stupid BB
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:09 PM
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americans are pretty stupid when it comes to nuclear power. one more thing to be afraid of. the late unpleasantness in the ukraine would not have had the same consequences had the same occurred in the US due to much better designs and safety standards.

Nuclear power does not fuel automobiles, or produce petro-chemical products or plastics or any of the other things created from petroleum that we depend upon daily. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ enjoy.

but, nobody get too excited... W proposed building nukular power plants, and nobody knows what the hell that is anyway.
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Granted that cars since the fifties are much safer, and how many years, and how many deaths did it take our system to evolve in automobile safety!

Are you suggesting that there is a s much data, as much information, when compared with NTSB......I doubt it. Do you believe we now know all that we need to know to go forward with nuclear technology? There is a price to pay for everything, nothing comes free!

Where are the other alternatives, hydrogen, solar, wind, are we getting too lazy to work a little harder to have?
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:37 PM
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I think nuclear power along with more solar, wind, geothermal and tidal is the right way to go. We very much need to be more energy independent than we are.
Nuclear is a very clean proven source for energy.
I would rather live near a nuke plant than a coal plant!
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I am a republican and I do not fit your generalization at all. I thinks that renewable energy sources are a very important part of taking care of our future energy need. I also think that conservation is also a very important part. As far as nuclear power goues the new pebble bed reactors are very safe. I do not think that the world is a happy place that wishes us no ill either. I also do not think that military intervention in oil producing countries is a good idea either. But..

If we wish to continue living in a modern society that can produce the economic surpluses that most liberals are in favor of then it boils down to 2 choices:

1. Develop a program of NUCLEAR,RENEWABLES and CONSERVATION

2. FORCIBLY SECURE OUR OIL SUPPLY THROUGH MILITARY FORCE.

Pick either but be aware of the consequences of both.
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:07 PM
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Strong arming the entire world for our spoiled habits is no excuse!

We as Americans are viewed by the entire world, including those up north, who used to consider us neighbors, CANADA, we are standing more and more alone in the universe.

Spoiled people we are, and we are taking more than our share, and that is why we are hated today as Americans.

I'm becoming ashamed to be an American, more so lately than ever before!

Contrary to yours thoughts, I am in a majority of opinion, in mankind! ....BB
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:12 PM
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Boy, I didn't think this issue would ever come back to light! I thought we spent a decade and a half proving why this energy alternative was not in our favor. But with the W, it does not really surprise me!

I have come today to a conclusion about REPUBLICANS....they are greedy and care only about making lots of money, thus being superior, smarter, upper level human beings, elite class, and dumb liberals who have humanity understandings, those who are wanting to give help, REPUBLICANS do not like tax dollars going to the inferior, it is why they complain about spending an additional $36 to help people who are born in our society who cannot achieve because they are not born with the brain needs to support themselves. REPUBLICANS would likely vote to have them exterminated from society instead.

REPUBLICANS are selfish, and a greedy sort, and the power is in there realm, and is why I scared..................Stupid BB
Funny its Democrats that favor the SUV's

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