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Old 06-09-2005, 09:10 PM
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CLinton got the good economy Built under regan and Bush seniors terms trickle down economics....and had 8 years to run it into the ground....the economic downturn started in Clintons term.....not in Bushes term...it was already in a full downturn when Bush took office.....revisionist history only works on Democrats and the uneducated, you aren't getting away with it here.


And Woo Hoo, 7,500 posts as of this one...
perhaps this has been said before but you are a complete yahoo. i mean that in a good way, though.

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Old 06-09-2005, 09:16 PM
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yawn.......
...the truth, you want the truth....let me tell you something ...you can't handle the truth......( I love that line)


thats the proof..
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:18 PM
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Everybody who believes that a president, any president, affects the economy with his particular policy, raise your hand. You there in the back, wake up!

It isn't the president, it is what buyers, savers, and investors do that drives the economy. And also what happens in the energy market, one of the few places where a cartel actually controls pricing to some degree, at least negatively.

In controlled economies like the good old USSR, the head despot can control the economy, until that economy bumps into a free market. Then it gets its red corpuscles sucked out of it by the profit motive of millions of independent investors thinking for themselves.

Look at the present US economy. It is growing faster than most other industrialized countries despite having a huge national (and individual) debt load. If it were practically any other country on Earth, inflation would be hog-wild. The current system influencing the economy is all wrong, but the economy is growing lickety-split.

Psychology rules. People think the USA is good for the debt, so the USA IS good for the debt. To change that, all it would take would be for enough whining naysayers to get a big enough megaphone and shout, "The Emperor Has No Clothes!" Then the economy woul drop faster than a run-away coal elevator down a mineshaft.

However, if confidence (psychology) is strong, then we probably will get through this debt load, shrink the fed gov and maybe, pay-off our credit cards and mortgages.
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:24 PM
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...the truth, you want the truth....let me tell you something ...you can't handle the truth......( I love that line)


thats the proof..
as sartre observed, truth is subjectivity...there are many people who believe what you believe (although they usually aren't as intransigent [or psychotic ]as you seem to be) and many who do not. and that, my friend, is what makes a horse race! well, that and the little guy sitting on his back whipping the crap out of him, but i digress........
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:26 PM
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as sartre observed, truth is subjectivity...there are many people who believe what you believe (although they usually aren't as intransigent [or psychotic ]as you seem to be) and many who do not. and that, my friend, is what makes a horse race! well, that and the little guy sitting on his back whipping the crap out of him, but i digress........
Thats whats wrong with Democrats....8 years of Clinton and they no longer recognise the fact there is a difference between reality and fantasy......
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:30 PM
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Thats whats wrong with Democrats....8 years of Clinton and they no longer recognise the fact there is a difference between reality and fantasy......
well i'll agree that i can't differentiate between fantasy and reality but i don't think it was clinton who is responsible for it. i would attribute that to a slight schizoaffective thought process and about 90 grateful dead concerts....
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:34 PM
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well i'll agree that i can't differentiate between fantasy and reality but i don't think it was clinton who is responsible for it. i would attribute that to a slight schizoaffective thought process and about 90 grateful dead concerts....
Having attened one Greatful dead concert...(dead ahead tour) at Veterans stadium in Philly.....it was impossible to be there and not get a contact High from all the pot being smoked there.....I bet the entire part of the city downwind had a strange case of the munchies that night.
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:40 PM
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Having attened one Greatful dead concert...(dead ahead tour) at Veterans stadium in Philly.....it was impossible to be there and not get a contact High from all the pot being smoked there.....I bet the entire part of the city downwind had a strange case of the munchies that night.
i'm surprised your head didn't explode being around all those liberals. that might have been the night i ate 7 pat's steaks!!
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:45 PM
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i'm surprised your head didn't explode being around all those liberals. that might have been the night i ate 7 pat's steaks!!
People we groving to the tunes...the liberals were too stoned to be irritating...so it was easy to cope with them. The Dead were great....Bob Dylan who was headlining however sucked bigtime.
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:29 PM
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Take a course in economy......its much like a Ocean liner....anything you do takes time....its not a Mazda Miata you know...
You're the one who needs the education. You have an economy that is doing reasonably well and the treasury is running record defecits. Exactly how do you propose to correct these defecits? Think the economy is going to pick up more steam any time soon?

BTW, you got six more months until our troop strength in Iraq drops below 10,000 men, by your own words. But, you will probably backpedal on that one and blame it on Clinton, like you usually do.
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...the liberals were too stoned to be irritating...so it was easy to cope with them.

You are a liberal.
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Old 06-09-2005, 11:10 PM
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You're the one who needs the education. You have an economy that is doing reasonably well and the treasury is running record defecits. Exactly how do you propose to correct these defecits? Think the economy is going to pick up more steam any time soon?

BTW, you got six more months until our troop strength in Iraq drops below 10,000 men, by your own words. But, you will probably backpedal on that one and blame it on Clinton, like you usually do.
blame clinton? who, bhd? why, i've never heard of such a thing......
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Old 06-09-2005, 11:32 PM
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Brian,
Please don't discourage him, BHD provides me with hours of entertainment during the workday... like going to the zoo.
What? Like that's gonna happen?! Limbaugh, Hannity, and FOX news done implanted their chip in him. Remember that fairy tale, "The Ice Queen?" Bonehead done been stolen by the Ice Queen's daughter: Ann Coulter.
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Old 06-09-2005, 11:41 PM
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What? Like that's gonna happen? Limbaugh, Hannity, and FOX news done implanted their chip in him. Remember that fairy tale, "The Ice Queen?" Bonehead done been stolen by the Ice Queen's daughter -- Ann Coulter.
.............LOL..........yep, he's been programmed by GWB and company. No way to fix it, I'm afraid. You can't even surgically extract the chip, unfortunately.

Hell of a nice guy. Knows quite a bit about vehicles and repairs. Sad, really.
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Old 06-09-2005, 11:42 PM
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............btw...........did anybody bother to tell you...............Clinton is not the President anymore.

Maybe you were not aware??
You know, in my opinion, Clinton is doing a really lousy job of being our president from 5 years ago. Why, he's the worst ex-president ever! FORTUNATELY, we will have a new ex-president in no time.

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