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Old 06-10-2005, 02:05 PM
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BHD, you need to remove those tunnels from your glasses and rediscover peripheral vision!
Funny How the Liberal 90% of the Media completely ignores Howard deans rants.........


Mysterious, vanishing Dean


By L. Brent Bozell III


If Howard Dean thought becoming chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) would be a great way to heighten his profile, he made a big mistake. Since he was elected to the top party spot on Feb. 12, Democrats have hidden him like the Clinton staff hid mistresses.
They've received a lot of help from a national media blackout. As Mr. Dean traveled the country dispensing gaffe after gaffe, the national networks ignored him almost entirely. On Thursday, June 2, he cracked at a left-wing convention that many Republicans "have never made an honest living in their lives." ABC, CBS and NBC ignored him for three days, until the Sunday morning interview programs, which have about a quarter to half the ratings of the evening news.
John Edwards distanced himself from Mr. Dean on Saturday, as Delaware Sen. Joe Biden did on ABC Sunday. Then, Monday night, "NBC Nightly News" took up Mr. Dean's loose lips. Fourteen minutes in, with no promotion at the outset, anchor Brian Williams began: "In Democratic politics, he's hard to miss." Wrong. He has been easy to miss on network TV news.
But Andrea Mitchell's story was pretty tough, featuring a list of Dean gaffes, and a list of horrified Democratic reactions to Mr. Dean, from Mr. Biden and Mr. Edwards to consultant David Axelrod to former Party Chairman Bob Strauss. (Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois and an online statement from Mr. Edwards were brought to Mr. Dean's defense.)
But NBC's single story is the exception. The rule has been a blackout at the Big Three since the weekend Mr. Dean was elected. CBS hasn't mentioned the words "Howard Dean" since Feb. 20. ABC and NBC both ignored Mr. Dean for two months until they found his critical comments useful during the mid-April controversy over Terri Schiavo's death. But Mr. Dean's gaffes were nowhere to be found. They also ignored Mr. Dean for the rest of April, and then May.
So when Mr. Dean was scheduled for a rare national TV shot on NBC's "Meet the Press" on May 23, they must have been passing around the Advil for the expected headaches. The truly jaw-dropping moments came when Tim Russert made obvious comparisons of comments from Howard Dean's mouth.
On May 14, Mr. Dean said Rep. Tom DeLay should go back to Houston "where he can serve his jail sentence." But in December 2003, Mr. Dean said we shouldn't prejudge the guilt of Osama bin Laden: "I've resisted pronouncing a sentence before guilt is found." Mr. Russert asked Mr. Dean to reconcile the double standard.
"To be honest with you, Tim, I don't think I'm prejudging him," declared Mr. Dean of Mr. DeLay, arguing a reprimand from the House Ethics Committee -- which in traffic-cop terms is a warning, not a ticket -- is somehow evidence of criminal guilt.
Mr. Dean argued, "I think there's a reasonable chance that this may end up in jail." When Mr. Russert followed up by noting even liberal Democrat Rep. Barney Frank found the jail talk out of line, Mr. Dean repeated: "As I said before, we're not speculating here." (We're not?) For giggles, he added: "We're not going to stoop to the kind of divisiveness that the Republicans are doing."
Mr. Russert also noted that at an American Civil Liberties Union event, Mr. Dean had joked Rush Limbaugh snorted cocaine between sentences on his radio show. Mr. Russert didn't note Rush was treated for Vicodin addiction, not cocaine, but did ask if a physician such as Mr. Dean should mock someone undergoing therapy. Mr. Dean unloaded a volley about conservative hypocrites and said -- get this -- "We ought not to lecture each other about our ethical shortcomings." What was it he had just said about Mr. DeLay and jail?
It was a disastrous performance. Guess how many news items that night and the next day on ABC, CBS, and NBC focused on Mr. Dean's meltdown? ABC and CBS had nothing. NBC's Sunday "Nightly News" used only a bland Dean clip on the filibuster.
Except for Miss Mitchell, the networks also ignore Mr. Dean's off-camera performance. He is not producing the financial windfall the DNC expected from fiery antiwar left-wingers.
Federal election reports show the DNC raised $14.1 million in first-quarter 2005 versus the RNC's $32.3 million. Mr. Dean drew about 20,000 new donors, while the GOP picked up 68,200. Republicans have $26.2 million in the bank versus $7.2 million for the Democrats.
If the liberal media wanted to look like they weren't reporting from inside the DNC press office, they haven't helped their image with a Howard Dean blackout. Instead, they sound more like Pepto-Bismol. They coat, soothe and protect the Democrats from indigestion due to their fiery, gassy leader.

L. Brent Bozell III is the president of the Media Research Center and a nationally syndicated columnist.

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Old 06-10-2005, 02:14 PM
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90% pf the press is controlled by bleeding heart liberals......who find no fault in all things liberal....and very little fault in Clinton for example....

and whats worse many of them are actually aiding the terrorists...

Sorry but your arguement doesn't hold water.
sounds like an elphant fart to me...
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Funny How the Liberal 90% of the Media completely ignores Howard deans rants.........

Yes, I do believe that Howard Dean must be your brother from a former life.
You are the Republican and he is the Democrat, but, with regard to intelligence and speaking ability, you are on a perfect par with him.
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:20 PM
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sounds like an elphant fart to me...
You are blind ti the facts.......please keep it up...becasue those who are not wil be voting republican........
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:21 PM
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Yes, I do believe that Howard Dean must be your brother from a former life.
You are the Republican and he is the Democrat, but, with regard to intelligence and speaking ability, you are on a perfect par with him.
No he was hillarys half brother....they both suffer paranoid schitsophrenia.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:07 PM
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Semi lefty...

Once again, I'm way behind but here 'tis. Air America, sign me up!

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

Too many of those questions had lots of gray areas, but I guess that's true of all polls.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:11 PM
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Once again, I'm way behind but here 'tis. Air America, sign me up!

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

Too many of those questions had lots of gray areas, but I guess that's true of all polls.
I'm surprised you are that far left....I would have put youcloser to center.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:56 PM
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I think I probably am more towards center....a lot of questions were difficult to go yea or nay.
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Old 06-10-2005, 05:56 PM
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I think I probably am more towards center....a lot of questions were difficult to go yea or nay.
I know what you mean...I noticed that too.
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:24 PM
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You are blind ti the facts.......please keep it up...because those who are not wil be voting republican........

how do liberals aid the terrorists?

if anything gas guzzling shrubbery is filling the terrorists' coffers..
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:38 PM
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how do liberals aid the terrorists?

if anything gas guzzling shrubbery is filling the terrorists' coffers..
OK, heres why....

The ACLU is more concerned about rights of the terrorists they are not owed than the American Victims and the people they wish to kill.

The ACLU was pushing for Geneva Convention protection they did not deserve under the terms of the agreement....

So OK we allowed them that...Now they are trying to apply Miranda laws and arrest status to who they wanted to be considered POW's....POW's are under international LAW entitled to be held for the duration of hostilities...well last I heard Al Queda is still trying to kill anyone American...POW's are not entitled to the courts to argue their detention...

Terrorists are NOT entitled to protections of a shop lifter...

THe "Liberals" in this meaning the ACLU and its supporters have a total disdain for anyone Christian as proven through their repeated lawsuits agianst anything Christian....they have a disdain for Americans while fighting to support terrorists. Example given here....the Koran story fabrication.....they are fighting for...and the attempts to ban anything dealing whith Christmas while fighting for the Koran to be treated like its something sacred...the total opposite of the Bible they hate..
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:01 PM
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if we start picking rights based on some non status or some other foolish thing then we might as well be back in good ol' england back in.. oh say 1500s..

i know kv posted this a million times but you seemed to have missed it. "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" right?

well, seems the koran story is TRUE! not really sure what else to say... hmmm.
they are fighting for equal rights... so the bible wouldn't be the dominant thing.. or vice a versa..
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if we start picking rights based on some non status or some other foolish thing then we might as well be back in good ol' england back in.. oh say 1500s..

i know kv posted this a million times but you seemed to have missed it. "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" right?

well, seems the koran story is TRUE! not really sure what else to say... hmmm.
they are fighting for equal rights... so the bible wouldn't be the dominant thing.. or vice a versa..
What proof was ever offered? .........none just Like CBS.


Oh...non US terrorists get support for their Koran..while US citizens get denied their religious liberties from the same group.....You are going to argue I have to give supreme respect to a terrorists Koran but ..OH sorry, I can't have a public Christmas display.......

Rights ? Status....? foriegn Combatants killing US soldiers do NOT have US constitutional rights....they aren't fighting for equal rights....they are prisoners of war...nothing more....Let them kill your wife in some attack...or your parents.....then lets see if you are so generous trying offer rights to NON-americans you won't even extend to americans..

You really need to sit down and read the Geneva Convention.....
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What proof was ever offered? .........none just Like CBS.


Oh...non US terrorists get support for their Koran..while US citizens get denied their religious liberties from the same group.....You are going to argue I have to give supreme respect to a terrorists Koran but ..OH sorry, I can't have a public Christmas display.......
i thought you even had muslim frineds, no?

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Rights ? Status....? foriegn Combatants killing US soldiers do NOT have US constitutional rights....they aren't fighting for equal rights....they are prisoners of war...nothing more....Let them kill your wife in some attack...or your parents.....then lets see if you are so generous trying offer rights to NON-americans you won't even extend to americans..

You really need to sit down and read the Geneva Convention.....
you said POW and shrub said mission accomplished... it's over then

the thing is that none of those people at gitmo or iraq ever threatened me or you... we just grabbed them... there is a difference between afgani and iraqi though... i still support the afgani operations..
the other is that you ought to check out amnesty international and see who is the real offender in human rights...
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Old 06-11-2005, 01:27 AM
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..OH sorry, I can't have a public Christmas display.......
Of course you can have a public Christmas display. In your front yard is public -- your church puts one in its yard, on its roof, that's public -- a business can have one in their store or front window, that's public. What is controversial is having public money or property used for a Christmas display, and I heartily approve of disallowing that. School prayer? Oh puhh - LEEZ! Conservative activists disapprove of a lot of what teachers do and they're certain that schools and teachers can do the proper job of administering school prayer?! Christian activists are welcome to their religious practice -- on private property, thank you so much.

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Rights ? Status....? foriegn Combatants killing US soldiers do NOT have US constitutional rights....they aren't fighting for equal rights....they are prisoners of war...nothing more....Let them kill your wife in some attack...or your parents.....then lets see if you are so generous trying offer rights to NON-americans you won't even extend to americans..

You really need to sit down and read the Geneva Convention.....
The times the Genevea Convention was agreed upon during are different than these times. Of course it would be best if all combatants wore uniforms and did not hide among civilians. HOWEVER, it is unrealistic in the extreme to expect massivley overmatched forces to put on uniforms they don't have and likely as not can't afford and go line up in a field, Revolutionary War style, away from the only cover usually available in these places, i.e. buildings, to await battle with the U.S. Air Force which would massacre them in minutes down to the last man.

The point that Sen. Joe Biden, I think the only Senator who's son is in the armed forces, is trying to make is that our treatment of prisoners at Gitmo is widley perceived around the world as heavy-handed, unfair, and barbaric and is likely to lead to a greater liklihood of mistreatment of our forces should they be captured. I know they are not being treated too well in any case, beheadings, etc., but we are supposed to be better than them, and if we don't display mercy as an example to the world, we weaken our moral authority.

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