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Old 06-23-2005, 08:37 PM
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The Other War

Remember the War on Terrorism?

WASHINGTON, June 22 (Reuters) - The CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, officials said on Wednesday. A classified report from the U.S. spy agency says Iraqi and foreign fighters are developing a broad range of skills, from car bombings and assassinations to coordinated conventional attacks on police and military targets, officials said.

Once the insurgency ends, Islamic militants are likely to disperse as highly organized battle-hardened combatants capable of operating throughout the Arab-speaking world and in other regions including Europe.

Fighters leaving Iraq would primarily pose a challenge for their countries of origin including Saudi Arabia and Jordan. But the May report, which has been widely circulated in the intelligence community, also cites a potential threat to the United States. "You have people coming to the action with anti-U.S. sentiment ... And since they're Iraqi or foreign Arabs or to some degree Kurds, they have more communities they can blend into outside Iraq," said a U.S. counterterrorism official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the report's classified status.


Okay, so the CIA isn't a credible source of intelligence anymore . . we all know that. How about the war on domestic terrorism?

June 12, 2005
WASHINGTON On Thursday, President Bush stepped to a lectern at the Ohio State Highway Patrol Academy in Columbus to urge renewal of the USA Patriot Act and to boast of the government's success in prosecuting terrorists. Flanked by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Bush said "federal terrorism investigations have resulted in charges against more than 400 suspects, and more than half of those charged have been convicted."

Those statistics have been used repeatedly by Bush and other administration officials, including Gonzales and his predecessor, John Ashcroft, to characterize the government's efforts against terrorism. But the numbers are misleading at best.

An analysis of the Justice Department's list of terrorism prosecutions by The Washington Post shows that 39 people not 200 have been convicted of crimes related to terrorism or national security.

Most of the others were convicted of relatively minor crimes such as making false statements and violating immigration law and had nothing to do with terrorism, the analysis shows. Overall, the median sentence was 11 months.


Animal rights extremism FBI's top domestic terrorism priority
PAUL ELIAS
Associated Press
Jun. 21, 2005
PHILADELPHIA - Violence by environmental and animal rights extremists against U.S. drug makers has increased so much in recent years that it's currently the FBI's top domestic terrorism issue, a top agency official says.

The agency has about 150 open cases of arson, bombings and other violent crimes associated with militant environmental and animal rights activists protesting the experimental use of animals in medical research, he said.

Lewis made the comments Monday in an address to some of the 18,000 biotechnology executives gathered here at the four-day Biotechnology Industry Organization's annual convention.

Some of the same groups associated with the wave of violent attacks on biotechnology companies said they planned demonstrations outside the convention center Tuesday.


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Old 06-24-2005, 01:02 AM
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Why worry about the Iraqi? Tonight's news stated that the North Koreans have at least 6 nuclear warheads since GW been pussyfooting around and wasted a year to stop their development. Soon we will see six mushroom clouds and thanks for Bush and all the people who voted for his second term. You all happy now?
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Old 06-24-2005, 01:32 AM
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Why worry about the Iraqi? Tonight's news stated that the North Koreans have at least 6 nuclear warheads since GW been pussyfooting around and wasted a year to stop their development. Soon we will see six mushroom clouds and thanks for Bush and all the people who voted for his second term. You all happy now?
Do you actually think the ketchup man would have done any better? Come on, regardless of which idiot got voted into office, the worst puppet for the job won the election.
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:07 AM
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Do you actually think the ketchup man would have done any better? Come on, regardless of which idiot got voted into office, the worst puppet for the job won the election.
Yes, I do. Actually, almost any of the candidates who took part in any primary, and several repos who would have run if not against an incumbant would also have done better. The current occupant of the office is quite possibly the worst this nation has ever had. It will not be much of a challenge to do better. You'll see after he's gone, because whomever is elected will have a hard time doing worse, and will thusly look like a genius. Hopefully it's a democrat or independent of some sort so that repos can finally take the blame for their idiocy of the past several years. The irony of all ironies would be for Hillary to become the president, and just by virtue of her being able to complete a sentence using words from the dictionary, she'd be ready for Rushmore by comparison.
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I only wait to read what bonehead has to say..

However, I rather see the Kerry puppet in there then Bush. I rather listen to a person who can speak properly, then a Texan who has the vocubulary skills of a 12 year old.
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If a newspaper atricle says something is not a priority does that mean that it's not?

I don't think so if the war on terror was not being fought inside the US we could stand on our front porchs and count the smoke plumes coming from the big cities.

The last time I checked they did let a couple would be terrorist attacks in CONUS go public and I'd much rather see our troops killing terroist in Iraq instead of Detroit.
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You can tell the Democrats are soon to be replaced with the Libertarians as the second largest party behind the republicans that are #1.

Its been years since they had anything constructive to say about anything....

In the next few years it will be Libertarian VS Republican.....I know that will please a lot of people.

The Democratic party is the party of has-beens....and will soon be a has-been party.
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Why worry about the Iraqi? Tonight's news stated that the North Koreans have at least 6 nuclear warheads since GW been pussyfooting around and wasted a year to stop their development. Soon we will see six mushroom clouds and thanks for Bush and all the people who voted for his second term. You all happy now?
You guys slay me. Iraq was a failure because it was "unilateral" (not true, but that's another story). W tries to approach N. Korea multilaterally and he's "pussyfooting."
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You guys slay me. Iraq was a failure because it was "unilateral" (not true, but that's another story). W tries to approach N. Korea multilaterally and he's "pussyfooting."
That's the problem. They're too blinded by their hatred of the man. If Bush were to pass gas in front of a liberal, they'd go on for months about how uncooth he is, all while letting rippers themselves.

I'm no fan of Bush myself. However, if Kerry were in office, we'd all be singing the virtues of the koran, paying $4 per gallon for gas, have no economy at all, would have been suckered into the Kyoto accord, as well as letting the environazies dictate policy for our national park system.

As for BHD's statement of the Libertarian party overtaking the gimmecraps, that would make my day. It's going to take a new party without ties to the moffia, unions, corporations, and lobbyiests to effect any real change in the course of this country.
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It's going to take a new party without ties to the moffia, unions, corporations, and lobbyiests to effect any real change in the course of this country.
Well said, and could not agree more! I can only hope that there is that chance someday, but money dictates, and there have always been crooked politicians, and likely always will be until man can curve his appetite for greed!
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:26 PM
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You guys slay me. Iraq was a failure because it was "unilateral" (not true, but that's another story). W tries to approach N. Korea multilaterally and he's "pussyfooting."
The point is not about "unilateral" or "multilateral". It is about what he is not doing.

This is just for Bone. You said Clinton did nothing about OBL, and thus led to 9/11. GW does nothing about N Korea. The plumb of smoke you guys so wish for may just happen next. So are you all still happy with this winner in the Oval Office?
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I only wait to read what bonehead has to say..

However, I rather see the Kerry puppet in there then Bush. I rather listen to a person who can speak properly, then a Texan who has the vocubulary skills of a 12 year old.
If Kerry would have won the election he would have immediately handed his position over to Osama Bin Laden so not to offend the Muslims. AND everybody right now would be bowing to Allah with guns ready to shoot whoever refused.
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That's the problem. They're too blinded by their hatred of the man. If Bush were to pass gas in front of a liberal, they'd go on for months about how uncooth he is, all while letting rippers themselves.

I'm going to borrow that one.
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The point is not about "unilateral" or "multilateral".
I'm glad that's finally settled, then.

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