says they knew nothing.

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/london_bombings

Think of how many times one of our kids has gotten busted for any offense and we always feel like we've been duped.

Do you think it's the same when your friggin' kid is a terrorist?

At least that kid that killed a bunch of classmates had some signals that he wasn't "right".

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When someone is that far over the edge they knew something.....this goes way beyond youthful indescretions. I bet the parents in this case are up to their necks in this...

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Yup, just like the Oklahoma bombers' parents, or the parents of the Columbine shooters, or the parents of Mohammed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi or Hani Hanjour. They all knew.

Wonder if my parents knew I stashed all those Playboy and Penthouse mags back in the shed, or knew about all those times I plinked chipmunks off the rock cliffs, or that I dropped a roach on the couch and burned a hole clean through--if they did know, they were damn sly about it.

they did....they just chose to ignore it.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

there is a quantum leap between that and planning mass murder.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

How about a nice all-expense paid vacation on a remote tropical island?

I hear the authentic Cuba-Libres are to die for . . .

Like pipe bombs?

Hey, now you're getting close to home! We made peaceful pipe bombs when I was a kid. I admit to blowing the crap out of fire ant hills. Got some yellow-jackets, too. Made them rambling wrecks and I wasn't even in Atlanta.

While Botnst was building "pipe bombs for peace" I was experimenting in "light amplification" technology

You really don't believe that the felling of that building was the result of one ampho bomb, do you?

Well I guess that's outside the scope of this conversation. I don't think Tim McVeigh's parents knew what he was going to do. He was a grown man.

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It is obvious that only a small minority of Islamic people are bad people. Freedoms are being lost as a result of their actions. How much freedom will be lost and whose freedom will be lost? It is also obvious that if we kicked all of them, good and bad, out of the countries that the bad ones consider to be their enemies the rest of the people in those countries would be safer and more secure and perhaps enjoy more freedoms.

Politically correct blood is boiling, go to your happy place.

Supposition : I am suspecting these people where unsuspecting mules...
Having lived in London ...UK, for nearly 40 years
I cannot think these boys where knowingly going to die .
It is a different place from Afghanistan/ Pakistan/Iraq.

Even the Irish IRA never had people doing this...it was always a remote or timed detonation.
Admittedly there where a few hunger strikers...Bobby Sands etc.

I wonder if it may turn out that the back packs where given them to deliver and not told of the deadly contents, or at least that they
would detonate after they where placed.

This is my take...just a possibility.

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Lest we forget, there are also eco-terrorist, animal rights terrorist, anti-abortion terrorist, and a litany of other well armed groups all over the planet. They just need better publicists.