Link:

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=68983&d=25&m=8&y=2005
(and before you bash the source, you can find it on APP, and many other US based sources too)

Text:

Israel Seizes Palestinian Land
Hisham Abu Taha, Arab News


JERUSALEM, 25 August 2005 — Israel has issued orders to seize Palestinian land to build its wall along a route that would effectively annex the West Bank’s largest Jewish settlement to Jerusalem, the Justice Ministry said yesterday, a day after Israel completed its evacuation of 25 settlements in Gaza and the West Bank.

Palestinians charged that Israel issued the confiscation orders while world attention was riveted on the forcible removal of settlers and tearing down of their homes by Israeli bulldozers.

Besides objecting to loss of land, Palestinians said that the wall would cut them off from the part of Jerusalem they claim for a state and reinforce Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s intention to solidify Israel’s grip on its main West Bank settlement blocs after the Gaza pullout. The settlement, Maaleh Adumim, 5 kilometers (3 miles) east of Jerusalem in the Judean desert, has about 30,000 residents. Sharon has said repeatedly that it will remain in Israel even after a final peace accord with the Palestinians.

Israel says the wall is needed to keep bombers from entering the country. When complete, the 680-kilometer (425-mile) complex of walls, electric fences, trenches and barbed wire is expected to include about eight percent of the West Bank on the “Israeli” side.

Amos Gil, executive director of Ir Amim, an Israeli settlement monitoring group, said the Maaleh Adumim barrier confiscation would seize about 60 square kilometers (23 square miles) of land.

Attorney General Meni Mazuz approved the order after a legal review, the Justice Ministry said. “Such decisions will only serve to undermine any efforts to resume negotiations,” said a senior Palestinian official, Saeb Erekat.

The United States issued a statement that implied criticism of the Israeli move. The wall “is a problem to the extent that prejudges a final borders, confiscates Palestinian property or imposes further hardship on the Palestinian people,” the statement said.

Palestinians claim all of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem for a state, complaining that the wall route unilaterally sets a border. Palestinians have praised Israel’s pullout from Gaza and the West Bank but insist it must be followed by an exit from the rest of the territory.

Yesterday, Israel proposed a dual crossing between Gaza and Egypt, defense officials said. The current Rafah crossing would allow for free exit of people and goods, and a new crossing would be built at the Gaza-Egypt-Israel border for entry under Israeli supervision. Palestinians rejected the idea.

The issue of the Rafah crossing is seen as critical to the future of Gaza. The crossing is Gaza’s only land link to the outside world without passing through Israel, which plans to maintain control over the territory’s Mediterranean seacoast and its airspace.

Also yesterday, Israel said it has reached a deal with Egypt on deploying hundreds of Egyptian border guards along the southern border of the Gaza Strip.

But a source close to the Egyptian presidency said some finetuning remained before the deal was done.

“We have reached total agreement with the Egyptians, there only remains the green light from the government and the Knesset (parliament) to be able to organize the signing ceremony,” Gen. Amos Gilad, a senior Israeli Defense Ministry official, told military radio.

However an official close to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak told AFP that no final deal on the deployment of Egyptian guards had been agreed upon.

Meanwhile, the UN Security Council yesterday welcomed the Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and parts of the northern West Bank and urged the resumption of peace talks aimed at establishing an independent and viable Palestinian state.

Comment:

Well, there you have it. Basically, they stole land, and then get a pat on the butt for giving it back after it was built on and bulldozed down. Gee, thanks folks. Why they're watching themselves get their OWN land back, the other side is stealing a different bit of land. I don't understand how these people keep getting away with it!! When Iraq tried to steal land from Kuwait, we jumped right in, yet Israel keeps stealing it from Palestine, and we do nothing. Sad state of affairs if you ask me.

You have a thing for Jews, huh?

Nope, just for looking at both sides of a story.

Really?? I'll be looking for your post denouncing the next bus bombing where dozens of innocent civilians are murdered by a peaceful palestinian.

In your world view are the jews allowed to do anything other than die?

If you're looking at both sides of the story you have to go back to 1947, then consider the wars of 67 and 73.

"In 1967, Israel captured the West Bank from Jordan and the Gaza Strip from Egypt. Both were used as staging areas in a war designed to annihilate Israel. Israel captured these areas in a defensive war in which they were fighting for their lives. They annexed them as a buffer zone against future attempts to annihilate them. All this was in accordance with established international law. The United States annexed California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona with less justification.

Forgetting why Israel took the land in the first place, the media announced the West Bank was "occupied territory." All historical precedence of other nations was denied to Israel."

See also this excellent fact-based article from the Israel Ministry of Foreign affairs:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2003/2/DISPUTED+TERRITORIES-+Forgotten+Facts+About+the+We.htm

I will be the first to do that as soon as Palestine is allowed to have a military and defend itself.

If once BOTH Palestine and Israel are permitted to have a relatively similar military the bus - freedom suicides continue, all bets will be off and I will view them as the animals that the sick American media allows.

Until that day, how do you expect a nation to defend itself if they aren't permitted a military??????????????????

Geesh, and I get my stones busted for *my* sources?

I didn't bust your stones.

I assume by your comment you infer that the sources are biased. I don't disagree - but the facts remain the facts, and they stand apart from the bias of the presenters.

Perhaps you would prefer this:

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html

If the people of Palestine had the aptitude and ability to organize a first rate military force their first mission would be to kill every jew that currently exists in the middle east. How anybody could come to any other conclusion is beyond my ability to comprehend.

I'll take your answer to my question as "no"

So let me raise this question. If Jews are eradicated from the ME, does that mean there will be peace on Earth? I am not against Jews (all my Russian friends are Jews, btw) in any way, just a question.

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Do you have the winning lottery numbers too? If people knew more about the Koran they would know that followers wouldn't rather not kill a fly, let alone a Jew. The death toll shows this clearly with 4 Palestinians killed for each Jew.

I have nothing against the Jewish people. I have something against our policy toward Israel and the way Israel treats Palestine.

Probably not, and it wouldn't be a good solution if so.

Everybody needs to stop trying to take other people's land and play nice. Simple. Yet each party needs to have the right to DEFEND their land!

and yet muslims keep blowing crap up. Curious.

after wwII the united nations commission on palestine (unscop) was, well, commissioned to study how best to handle the growing number of jewish refugees in the area. the majority opinion was a split state between israel and the palestinians. unfortunately, the arab populations were so "cooperative" in their treatment of this matter they refused to even come to the negotiations. read theodore herzl's book "the labyrinth of exile" for a comprehensive description of the need for and creation of the state of israel.

http://www.terroranalysis.com/story/48469.html

"On June 13, 1947, the Arab Higher Committee cabled the U.N. and declared that after consideration of the situation "they resolved that Palestine Arabs should obstain from collaboration and desist from appearing before the Special Committee."

"On July 10, UNSCOP sent a communication to the Arab Higher Committe requesting that it reconsider its decision and cooperate with the UNSCOP investigation. Three days later UNSCOP received a letter from the Arab Higher Committee stating they saw no reason to reverse it previous decision. The Jewish Agency, on the other hand, did provide representation to the UNSCOP meetings when invited."

it is also interesting to note that more palestinian land was annexed by trans-jordanian kings than has ever been by isreal and yet no one seems to mind that.

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are you disputing how the lands were acquired?

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James 4:8

"...let us put aside the blindness of mind of those who can conceive of nothing higher than what is known through the senses"
-Saint Gregory Palamas, ---Discourse on the Holy Transfiguration of Our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ


Centrally located in North East Central Pa.