PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/)
-   Off-Topic Discussion (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/)
-   -   Hey man, stuff happens! (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/133713-hey-man-stuff-happens.html)

matt7531 09-09-2005 11:54 AM

Hey man, stuff happens!
 
http://www.wonkette.com/too%20good%20to%20check.jpg


The 'Stuff Happens' Presidency

By Harold Meyerson
The Washington Post
Wednesday, September 7, 2005; A25



We're not number one. We're not even close.

By which measures, precisely, do we lead the world? Caring for our countrymen? You jest. A first-class physical infrastructure? Tell that to New Orleans. Throwing so much money at the rich that we've got nothing left over to promote the general welfare? Now you're talking.

The problem goes beyond the fact that we can't count on our government to be there for us in catastrophes. It's that a can't-do spirit, a shouldn't-do spirit, guides the men who run the nation. Consider the congressional testimony of Joe Allbaugh, George W. Bush's 2000 campaign manager, who assumed the top position at FEMA in 2001. He characterized the organization as "an oversized entitlement program," and counseled states and cities to rely instead on "faith-based organizations . . . like the Salvation Army and the Mennonite Disaster Service."

Is it any surprise, then, that the administration's response to the devastation in New Orleans is of a piece with its response to the sacking of Baghdad once our troops arrived? "Stuff happens" was the way Don Rumsfeld described the destruction of Baghdad's hospitals, universities and museums while American soldiers stood around. Now stuff has happened in New Orleans, too, even as FEMA was turning away offers of assistance. This is the stuff-happens administration. And it's willing, apparently, to sacrifice any claim America may have to national greatness rather than inconvenience the rich by taxing them to build a more secure nation.

As a matter of social policy, the catastrophic lack of response in New Orleans is exceptional only in its scale and immediacy. When it comes to caring for our fellow countrymen, we all know that America has never ranked very high. We are, of course, the only democracy in the developed world that doesn't offer health care to its citizens as a matter of right. We rank 34th among nations in infant mortality rates, behind such rival superpowers as Cyprus, Andorra and Brunei.

But these are chronic conditions, and even many of us who argue for universal health coverage have grown inured to that distinctly American indifference to the common good, to our radical lack of solidarity with our fellow citizens. Besides, the poor generally have the decency to die discreetly, and discretely -- not conspicuously, not in droves. Come rain or come shine, we leave millions of beleaguered Americans to fend for themselves on a daily basis. It's just a lot more noticeable in a horrific rain, and when the ordinary lack of access to medical care is augmented by an extraordinary lack of access to emergency services.

Even if we'll never win the national-greatness sweepstakes for solidarity, though, we've long been the model of the world in matters infrastructural, in roads, bridges and dams and the like. But the America in which Eisenhower the Good decreed the construction of the interstate highway system now seems a far-off land in which even conservatives believed in public expenditures for the public good. The radical-capitalist conservatives of the past quarter-century not only haven't supported the public expenditures, they don't even believe there is such a thing as the public good. Let the Dutch build their dikes through some socialistic scheme of taxing and spending; that isn't the American way. Here, the business of government is to let the private sector create wealth -- even if that wealth doesn't circulate where it's most needed. So George W. Bush threw trillions of dollars in tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans, and what did they do with it? Did the Walton family up in Bentonville raise the levees in New Orleans? Did the Bass family over in Texas write a tax-deductible check to the Mennonites for the billions of dollars they would need to rescue the elderly from inundated nursing homes?

Even now, with bedraggled rescuers pulling decomposed bodies from the muck of New Orleans, Bill Frist, the moral cretin who runs the U.S. Senate, wanted its first order of business this week to be the permanent repeal of the estate tax, until the public outcry persuaded him to change course. The Republicans profess belief in trickle-down, but what they've given us is the Flood.

The world looks on in stunned amazement, unable to understand how a once great nation has grown so indifferent not just to its poor and its blacks but even to the most rudimentary self-preservation. Some of it is institutional racism, but the primary culprit is the economic libertarianism that the president still espouses whenever he sells his Social Security snake oil. It's that libertarianism, more than anything else, that has transformed a great city into an immense morgue.

But, hey -- stuff happens.

guage 09-09-2005 12:54 PM

Updated: 5:47 p.m. ET Sept. 8, 2005
Washington (AP)
Rumor has it that the Lilly white folks of
Clear Lake, TX said no refugees in our neighborhood.
© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

luvrpgrl 09-09-2005 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guage
Updated: 5:47 p.m. ET Sept. 8, 2005
Washington (AP)
Rumor has it that the Lilly white folks of
Clear Lake, TX said no refugees in our neighborhood.
© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Rumour has it that tens of thousands of white people have opened their homes to total strangers who are victims of the hurricane, no questions asked.

boneheaddoctor 09-09-2005 01:11 PM

Rumour has it that the democrats are dreaming up smear stories since they are incapible of competing against the republicans by actualy doing anything productive with themselves.

elau 09-09-2005 01:41 PM

Rumor has it Ophelia may still be a threat to Southeastern Coastal USA.

guage 09-09-2005 01:46 PM

Rumor has it, thats where Kirk lives.

DieselAddict 09-09-2005 03:00 PM

To be honest I am ashamed of this country because of this disaster. I think even the poorest nations hit by the tsunamis last year had a faster response than we did. There was incompetence on many levels of the government. And the people in the astrodome *****ting on the floor just because there is a line to the bathrooms and having sex while surrounded by 10000 people are nothing but animals.

boneheaddoctor 09-09-2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselAddict
To be honest I am ashamed of this country because of this disaster. I think even the poorest nations hit by the tsunamis last year had a faster response than we did. There was incompetence on many levels of the government. And the people in the astrodome *****ting on the floor just because there is a line to the bathrooms and having sex while surrounded by 10000 people are nothing but animals.


The size of the disater area is as large or larger than many of those third world countries that get hit by those...

And the response has been better.....when you take out the bush bashing bias out of it and talk raw facts.

90,000 square miles is no small disater area....the lefties focus solely on New Orleans.....New Orleans is on a fraction of the effected area...

raymr 09-10-2005 09:47 AM

You have to admit though, the article has a small hint of truth to it, democrat or republican politics aside.

BrierS 09-10-2005 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymr
You have to admit though, the article has a small hint of truth to it, democrat or republican politics aside.

Fair and balanced? Too broad to make that decision yet it certainly is an eye-opener.

It is also interesting to hear the members of both parties have gone on record showing some disdain for how our President responded to Katrina's devastation. Throw in the Union Leader, arguably the most conservative newspaper in the country, weighing in with some negative statements of the President. Bob Novak? What prompted his remarks? Is it possible our President does in fact need to figure out how to say something like, "I screwed up" or is it okay for him to keep referring to the need to review what went wrong?

I don't know about the rest of you but in my lifetime, I have shouldered the blame/responsibility for negative events caused by subordinates . . .

Botnst 09-10-2005 10:25 AM

(engage foil hat)

Why has nobody in the media made a direct comparison between how the people of Mississippi responded with the people in NOLA?

Mississippi has suffered hugely in loss of life and property, yet the national media barely gives mention. Why?

Bot

BrierS 09-10-2005 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
(engage foil hat)

Why has nobody in the media made a direct comparison between how the people of Mississippi responded with the people in NOLA?

Mississippi has suffered hugely in loss of life and property, yet the national media barely gives mention. Why?

Bot

You forgot to turn your foil hat on . . . :bulb:

You have a valid point yet I think it diverges from what the thread starter offered. Your point does fit in some other threads you have been contributing to . . .

Botnst 09-10-2005 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
(engage foil hat)

Why has nobody in the media made a direct comparison between how the people of Mississippi responded with the people in NOLA?

Mississippi has suffered hugely in loss of life and property, yet the national media barely gives mention. Why?

Bot

Okay, let me rephrase to meet the judge's ruling.

Why did "stuff happen" and responses differ?

Bot

luvrpgrl 09-10-2005 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guage
Rumor has it, thats where Kirk lives.

Rumour has it that Kirk isnt a real person, but a computer program devised by the evil genius Rove, as a tool to make liberals look bad.

BrierS 09-10-2005 10:46 AM

Bot,
Seems to be one of many eroding social questions . . . human interest turns to see the ugly. The worse and often more negative the news, the more interest we as a society seem to spend reading and writing about it. One only need tally the negative topics and compare to the positive ones. This portion of the forum supports that premise.

Sad but true.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:43 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website