PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/)
-   Off-Topic Discussion (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/)
-   -   Winter Solstice Question (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/140401-winter-solstice-question.html)

Kuan 12-19-2005 03:51 PM

Winter Solstice Question
 
In the Northern Hemisphere, since the Winter Solstice, Dec 22nd, is the shortest day of the year, why is January the coldest month? Since the days get longer and there's more sunlight, shouldn't it be getting warmer?

Nate 12-19-2005 04:19 PM

I'd love to dig out my 7th grade science for you... but the answers a definitive no

I JUST gotta say that we get more light, but its light "lite"

~Nate

Botnst 12-19-2005 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuan
In the Northern Hemisphere, since the Winter Solstice, Dec 22nd, is the shortest day of the year, why is January the coldest month? Since the days get longer and there's more sunlight, shouldn't it be getting warmer?

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/ast99/ast99578.htm

MS Fowler 12-19-2005 04:49 PM

The earth is a large thermal flywheel. It has cooled for several months, and even with increasing sunlight, it takes time to warm it back up. Likewise, August is the hottest month, even though the longect day is June 21, or thereabouts.

J. R. B. 12-19-2005 04:55 PM

My great-grandfather always said, "As the days get longer the cold gets stronger."

Jim Anderson 12-19-2005 05:31 PM

The Winter Solstice is also the first day of winter, but just in this hemisphere.

R Leo 12-19-2005 05:48 PM

And, in the northern hemisphere winter, Earth is closer to the sun too.

DieselAddict 12-19-2005 06:59 PM

MS Fowler got it roughly right. Think of it this way. Winter solstice is the day the northern hemisphere receives the least amount of energy from the sun (because of the earth's tilt, not distance from the sun). It has already been cooling for quite some time because of the ever decreasing solar energy. It continues to cool after the winter solstice even though the solar energy is starting to increase again because the energy is still very low. It's usually not great enough to reverse the cooling trend until about February. Hope this makes sense.

kramlavud 12-19-2005 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS Fowler
The earth is a large thermal flywheel. It has cooled for several months, and even with increasing sunlight, it takes time to warm it back up. Likewise, August is the hottest month, even though the longect day is June 21, or thereabouts.

Although August seems hotter (maybe more humid, or just at the end of the long humid DC summer) July is hotter, if just by a little bit, in our neck of the woods.
regards,
Mark
Fairfax, VA

Jim Anderson 12-19-2005 07:23 PM

How about this explanation: Food still cooks a little more after its taken off the heat.

GermanStar 12-19-2005 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuan
In the Northern Hemisphere, since the Winter Solstice, Dec 22nd, is the shortest day of the year, why is January the coldest month? Since the days get longer and there's more sunlight, shouldn't it be getting warmer?

That's pretty much how it is here (shortest day -- coldest day / longest day -- hottest day). Move to the desert and the world makes more sense. :D

Kuan 12-19-2005 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS Fowler
The earth is a large thermal flywheel. It has cooled for several months, and even with increasing sunlight, it takes time to warm it back up. Likewise, August is the hottest month, even though the longect day is June 21, or thereabouts.

/

Kinda like a mini ice age? We get past a point of no return and plunge into a deep freeze. It takes significant amount of heat to cycle back to summer?

Makes sense.

J. R. B. 12-19-2005 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanStar
That's pretty much how it is here (shortest day -- coldest day / longest day -- hottest day). Move to the desert and the world makes more sense. :D

Not for me Ron. Too damn hot down there. When I retire I'm going to spend April to October in Alaska and come back to North Dakota for the winter. I want be a true snow bird.:D :D

GermanStar 12-19-2005 09:41 PM

Yeah, folks around here pretty much think I'm nuts -- I love the summers here -- the hotter the better! :cool:

Kuan 12-19-2005 10:08 PM

Winter is great for doing outdoors stuff. All the bears are hibernating.

GermanStar 12-19-2005 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuan
Winter is great for doing outdoors stuff.

Same here -- you don't need nearly as much sunscreen.

Kuan 12-19-2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanStar
Same here -- you don't need nearly as much sunscreen.

It's perfect weather down there during the winter for doing summer stuff!

Frank X. Morris 12-20-2005 12:10 AM

Howdy Ron,
As you know all deserts are not created equal. The one nice thing about your desert is you don't get down around 10° during the winter like we do.

Botnst 12-20-2005 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris
Howdy Ron,
As you know all deserts are not created equal. The one nice thing about your desert is you don't get down around 10° during the winter like we do.

Ain't it the troof? ANWR is a desert, too.

Bot

J. R. B. 12-20-2005 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanStar
Yeah, folks around here pretty much think I'm nuts -- I love the summers here -- the hotter the better! :cool:

You must have poor blood circulation.:D If I lived where you do my Benz and I would melt. At least when it's cold you can always put more clothes on. When it's hot you can only take so many off and then the cops will arrest you.:D

R Leo 12-20-2005 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
ANWR is a desert, too.

Bot


...with it's life underground and the perfect disguise above.

GermanStar 12-20-2005 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. R. B.
You must have poor blood circulation.:D If I lived where you do my Benz and I would melt. At least when it's cold you can always put more clothes on. When it's hot you can only take so many off and then the cops will arrest you.:D

Nah -- clothes are unnatural -- unless you're on a motorcycle of course. :D

Botnst 12-20-2005 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Leo
...with it's life underground and the perfect disguise above.

No, seriously. Tundras are deserts. The definition is the amount of precipitation per year. They have less than 10" of ppt/year. Arctic tundras are deserts, by definition.

There are lots of deserts that are NWRs. Not many tundras. So if the issue to you is protecting biodiversity than your argument is intact.

B

R Leo 12-20-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
No, seriously. Tundras are deserts. The definition is the amount of precipitation per year. They have less than 10" of ppt/year. Arctic tundras are deserts, by definition.

There are lots of deserts that are NWRs. Not many tundras. So if the issue to you is protecting biodiversity than your argument is intact.

B

I'm with you Bot. To me, the risk to the ANWR isn't worth the gains from the exploration.

Frank X. Morris 12-20-2005 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. R. B.
You must have poor blood circulation.:D If I lived where you do my Benz and I would melt. At least when it's cold you can always put more clothes on. When it's hot you can only take so many off and then the cops will arrest you.:D

Howdy J.R.B.,
You go to a point and then you put clothes on to keep the sun off. If you are in a survival situation you cover up. For me, I don't thaw out till it hits 80°.

MTI 12-20-2005 02:17 PM

Hawaii Winter Solstice Prep = Change from SPF 30 to SPF 25

GermanStar 12-20-2005 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris
Howdy J.R.B.,
You go to a point and then you put clothes on to keep the sun off. If you are in a survival situation you cover up. For me, I don't thaw out till it hits 80°.

Frank -- it sounds to me like you may need to find yourself another desert...

Frank X. Morris 12-20-2005 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanStar
Frank -- it sounds to me like you may need to find yourself another desert...

Howdy Ron,
Would like to move back down near Tucson or even down in the Douglas area. It doesn't get as cold there as here.

crash9 12-20-2005 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris
Howdy Ron,
Would like to move back down near Tucson or even down in the Douglas area. It doesn't get as cold there as here.

22 last night in Bisbee

Frank X. Morris 12-20-2005 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash9
22 last night in Bisbee

Howdy Crash9,
We were down to 16° a few nights back. We have had cloud cover so we have been staying in the high 20's. We usually average about 15° at night.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:47 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website