Ok so im slowly figuring out how to use the Itunes garbage software correctly. I made all my playlists according to different music genres with tracks in each one. They are all loaded into the ipod and whenever I add a song to one of the playlists it adds it in automatically.

Now yesterday I created an additional playlist but it did not load it into the ipod. I tried dragging the playlist onto the ipod icon in the program and it did not allow it to go.

Please dont tell me I have to wipe out the whole ipod and load everything again just for one more playlist?

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You might check the manual but you may be limited to so many playlists? Just a guess.

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I only have 5....trying to add the 6th.

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when you dragged it to the ipod icon did you right click the ipod icon and click refresh/update? you can have as many playlists as it can handle on their.. and itunes is not garbage... windows media player is

That might be the other issue, if you filled your available space. I am still learning also - as ipod admin for my wife and daughters. On the shuffles I have been deleting songs and then updating the playlists, then drag and dropping the playlist on the ipod. I haven't had a chance to mess with the traditional one yet.

Let us know what you find out. For us windows based idiots (me), the ipods and itunes just aren't that intuitive.

Chuck

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You really don't need to create Playlists based on different genres because the iPod already does that for you.

From the main menu, if you click on "Music", the next screen has the following options:
Playlists
Artists
Albums
Songs
Podcasts
Genres
Composers
Audiobooks

If you select "Genres", all of your songs are sorted by genre, and they are sorted in alphabetical order, i.e. Acoustic, Alternative, Blues, Classical, etc.

Thus, you are creating a playlist that already exists (sort of).

The only reason I can see creating separate playlists by genre is when you only want to hear a few select songs in each genre.

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Ya well it only picks up the genres that windows thinks it is. It labelled my DJ Tiesto for example as POP...ya well no way trance is pop!

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Bot made a joke, but it was a good one! Our Mercedes are cool cars. They come with a simple how to use them guide, the owners manual. They also have an available, in-depth set of manuals on how to fix them, because they do have problems that need fixing. I can fix some things on my car with just the owner's manual, but others I need the shop manual. Microsoft certainly isn't the Mercedes of the computer business, but they do write some pretty good shop manuals these days. ( Probably because they have to)>.

Now some of the ease of repair is the experience you have with the subject. If I was a 20 year MB tech, maybe I could guess at torques, wiring, vacuum, and cable functions. I'm not a 20 year Apple vet, so I need the manual to explain it - symptom, cause, resolution. I find the Apple docs woefully lacking on anything that is not the straight and narrow "it worked first time".

Examples...

My 2 daughters got iPod shuffles, a memory card with some iPod software on them. Both were not functional at startup. The manual that came with them was 30 pages ( 4"x4") of fluff. "Here is how you plug into a USB port. Nothing about the status light that was flashing orange and not green. I called Apple support, and got " your ipods were manufactured over 6 months ago, so you have no warrranty, even though you just brought them home". Nothing about going to itunes.com to look for help. Nothing about the apparently frequent process of having to reflash them with updated code. Nothing about how the host itunes software can screw up USB configurations. Nothing about iTunes incompatibility with the new iPod products and their updated code levels. Nothing about configuring mulitple ipods on a host machine. Nothing about if you have 2 shuffles, you may have to reflash the second one on a different computer than the first one. I eventually found the answers on an independent forum on ipods. They are now working and cool devices. But I bet I invested 30 hours of time to get them going.

Even on my wife's 20GB G4 iPod, the user docs are very basic and assume somehow you "know" how the control wheel works. This iPod has worked as advertised so far and has been a great product, but the learning curve on how to use it was not obvious from the docs, at least for me.

Overall I certainly agree that in general Apple products are more fault free and fault tolerant and need less "shop manual" fixing. They integrate very well with Apple hosts from what I read. There are some gaps in windows hosting.

Chuck.. who wants his own iPod... 8)

Yeah, sometimes the genres don't seem quite right. So what I do is go into iTunes and re-type in the genre for the songs that are labeled with the wrong genre.

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Figured it out guys! I right clicked on the ipod when plugged in and clicked ipod options....for updating the new playlist is not checked off so it would never add it in....once clicked it added the new playlist.

Thanks!

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