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GottaDiesel 02-17-2006 09:38 AM

Do you find this story stupid?
 
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L17698428.htm

I mean really!

They need permission from their enemy to sell them things? Come on now? How does that work exactly?

Can't you picture it?

World War II:

Dear Adolf,

Would it be ok if we sent England a few bombs?

Sincerely,

Mr. President


UGH!

GottaDiesel 02-17-2006 10:53 AM

You know... I just read this:


""
Israel hopes such sanctions will compel Hamas to adopt three key conditions raised by it and the international community. The militant group must recognize Israel, renounce violence and accept past Israeli-Palestinian agreements, including the 1993 interim Oslo accords and the stalled 'road map' peace plan, before normal ties with it are possible.
""

Which is from here:

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1130745.php/Israel_threatens_with_economic_sanctions_to_pressure_Hamas

More on the accord here:

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/mideast/isrplo.htm

So my question is that, what is so bad about the 3 points that Israel is aksing for? Two out of the three are fluff bull*****... the key is what land did (IF ANY) did Israel steal in those past agreements. (Or since them)... It would seem that *IF* Israel is being honest (yeah, I know, hard to trust a Zionist.)... then why doesn't Palestine play ball? I would. Then I would build my Army, and if they try to steal my land or bulldoze my houses I could defend myself.

What did I miss? And don't hand out the bulls!t about want to push them into the sea. That is bull propaganda crap.

Thanks, Pete

aklim 02-19-2006 10:48 AM

Maybe you don't see it but Hamas is built on Isreali destruction by any and all means. If they were to renounce violence and agree Isreal has the right to exist, their entire organization goes down the toilet. This is like asking the union boss to say that the company is a fair company and pays fair wages. If they did that, they would cease to exist. No matter what the company does or doesn't do, why would you expect the union boss to acknowledge it? You take out the adverseral relationship and the union leaders are out of work. Do you realize what you are asking of them? You are asking them to self destruct. If they recognize Isreal's right to exist, what would they be fighting for then? Nothing. If that were the case, how would they justify the violent methods especially when you ask them to renounce them?

Even if they did play ball, a few APCs and a couple of tanks are not going to stand up to a Merkava group of tanks that will come charging across if they started up anything.

GottaDiesel 02-21-2006 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim
Maybe you don't see it but Hamas is built on Isreali destruction by any and all means. If they were to renounce violence and agree Isreal has the right to exist, their entire organization goes down the toilet. This is like asking the union boss to say that the company is a fair company and pays fair wages. If they did that, they would cease to exist. No matter what the company does or doesn't do, why would you expect the union boss to acknowledge it? You take out the adverseral relationship and the union leaders are out of work. Do you realize what you are asking of them? You are asking them to self destruct. If they recognize Isreal's right to exist, what would they be fighting for then? Nothing. If that were the case, how would they justify the violent methods especially when you ask them to renounce them?

Even if they did play ball, a few APCs and a couple of tanks are not going to stand up to a Merkava group of tanks that will come charging across if they started up anything.


got Oslo?

aklim 02-21-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GottaDiesel
got Oslo?

They can sign any paper they want. Till leadership announces it and enforces it, I won't believe it.


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