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Old 02-21-2006, 04:14 PM
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Well maybe ole Prezzie does have the power to approve this deal. He just came out and said that he would veto any legislation that would stop this from going through. He forgot to check with Dick and Carl about appearances. I have yet to hear anyone say that this management is already under foreign control, but the story is just taking flight. I'm sure my friends with the “annoy a liberal” stickers on their pickup trucks are dumbfounded.

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Old 02-21-2006, 04:25 PM
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What do you think they'll do when they find out that the head of an oil-state Muslim government owns the Beverly Hills Hotel? I think this is a national security risk of monumental proportions, and I'm amazed our politicians haven't taken action. Do you realize how easy it would be to check a suitcase nuke at the bell desk? We're lucky the city's survived this long.
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:10 PM
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I wonder about this.
Since "everyone" seems against it, and my first inclination is also to cautious,I feel compelled to ask," Is it really a bad idea?"
I am waiting to be convinced by something more substantive than the knee-jerk stuff I've heard up to this point.
Some misconceptions abound--
This is not a "sale" of the ports; it is a change in the stevadoring/management operation.
There appears to be no change in security. Is this true? How does this potential change automatically make it less safe?
Could not some good come out of having increased economic ties between an Arab country and the US?

waiting to be convinced.....
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:46 PM
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Here is more info. Notice that the Government of Dubai is the third largest shareholder of DaimlerChrysler. IF in the future they takeover DaimlerChrysler, will you think twice before buying a new Mercedes? It wouldn't bother me.
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Old 02-21-2006, 11:05 PM
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I am a Freight Broker and this is part of a memo I got from a top Maritime Attorney who works with the Federal Maritime Commission today. We asked his opinion on what's going on ......

It is an excellent firm. The hysteria is racist. I see in the NY Times
> that"..."The company is controlled by the government of the United Arab
> Emirates, an ally of the United States that has also been home to
> terrorists,..." By that logic, of course, no Russian, German, English,
> Israeli, American, Canadian, or Spanish company could operate a crane
> shipside in the U.S., either.
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> We have truly gone over the brink.
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Old 02-21-2006, 11:38 PM
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Old 02-21-2006, 11:39 PM
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Bush has fallen completly off the deep end on this one, IMO tin foil opinion it is another ploy to take attention off Iraq.
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Old 02-21-2006, 11:51 PM
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Bush has fallen completly off the deep end on this one, IMO tin foil opinion it is another ploy to take attention off Iraq.

It would be more fun if Bush sent Cheney out to bag another lawyer.

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Old 02-22-2006, 05:54 AM
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Why is it that the opposition to this is simply emotional rantings?
I see accusations, but no substance.
I see insults of the President, but no substance.

Other than the obvious racial component what is wrong with this?

Cogent arguments, only, please.

Someone has said that the democrats are the evil party, and the republicans are the stupid party, when they both oppose something like this managing of the ports, it must be stupid and evil.
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:34 AM
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Old 02-22-2006, 11:27 AM
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This port issue is really a 6-to-1/Half dozen the other type thing.

On one end it is racist and wrong to say that the UAE can't own the port. On the other hand we wouldn't want to sell our nation's secrets just because a "friend" asked for them.

In the end, it is a win-win for Bush. Although most of the public just doesn't see it.

If Bush gets the UAE in, then the Arabs will be happy and help stem the issues he has in that region. If the UAE does pose a threat at the security level, then Bush / Haliburton will make a mint on the "defense" we'll need as a result of the aforementioned sale. Israel doesn't care who we sell to, in fact, they probably want the UAE deal to happen because they'll think that the terror will come here instead of Israel. So Israel isn't a factor in this one -- at least not of any size.

If Bush doesn't get the UAE then all the red-stater cowboys will be happy... and that helps Bush too. In the end it serves to take focus off of Iraq, and in the end Bush wins either way. Remember, he's done. He won't be getting another 4 years. Thank GOD.

Me? I don't really care who gets the port operations deal. Why? Because if people knew the first thing about containers they would know that you can smuggle just about anything you dam well want in or out of those things, from people to cars, to bombs, to more... it wouldn't matter is Osama were running the thing... much less the UAE. The only thing that sucks is that the UAE already has a little power over us via oil... why the hell give them more? I ilke the Brits running it. Without the US the Brits are nothing (IMHO)... on the other hand, the UAE has oil. And the world want's oil.
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Old 02-22-2006, 03:07 PM
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WASHINGTON - President Bush was unaware of the pending sale of shipping operations at six major U.S. seaports to a state-owned business in the United Arab Emirates until the deal already had been approved by his administration, the White House said Wednesday. Defending the deal anew, the administration also said that it should have briefed Congress sooner about the transaction, which has triggered a major political backlash among both Republicans and Democrats.
Anyone here buying this one?
Why would he threaten to veto if he didn't know what was going on?

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Old 02-22-2006, 03:09 PM
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Am I missing something?

There's been a lot of talk about racism, etc. in giving control to Arabs vs. British.

Umm..why is any other country in control of our ports except us?

Do we control the ports of any other country of substance?

Who controls the ports of Japan or the borders of Germany?
Remember them?

Of all the things to farm out, jeesh.
There can only be one conclusion I can think of, after reading a bunch on this...

Those currently in charge are selling out to anybody for a quick buck, and **** the next generation.

When I think of the WWII generation and all they fought and died for,the idea of any other entity besides the US gov't. operating our ports makes me ill.

What? It would cost too much to have the US gov't run them? C'mon!

When was it decided it would be a good idea to have anyone else operate our ports?

Are we in the US incapable of controlling our own ports that it needs to be done by someone else? At what cost?

What's next? Our ports become sovereign territory of another country?

Back to my header title...if I am missing something big here in concept, please let me know.
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Old 02-22-2006, 03:10 PM
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Umm..why is any other country in control of our ports except us?
A very good point!
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When did the mob stop controlling the ports?

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