The report in question is full of innuendo, gossip, and rumor with no substatiation. I know, I know what I believe so don't give me any facts. We all know facts change but the way I feel doesn't.

The reporter in question is an administration syncophant without the notoriety of a Kovak or The Big Head.

Meanwhile our commander-in-cheese is on the road giving us more of his matinee idol speeches.

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This will go on as long as the right wing continues thinking that 'pretext' is the book you read before the text.

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Alright, that's funny.

Condescending, as usual.

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Funny how the left burries their head in the sand since it wasn't their people who decided to do what was right and needed.

They would preffer to do nothing in Afganistan, they would preffer to let Saddam thumb his finger at the cease fire agreement and they would preffer to have the 9/11 victims unavenged just like the African embassy bombings they ignored, the USS Cole they ignored...and a number of others that were all ignored.

Did the democratic party fail to learn any lessons from history...specificly Neville Chaimberlands appeasment attempts with Hitler?

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Did the right learn nothing from the Gulf of Tonkin or Mossadegh affairs?

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Did the left learn nothing from Munich and Barbarossa?

History teaches many conflicting lessons. We make our own destinies.

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Ignoring a problem does not make it go away..(the biggest lesson of history).................ergo Saddam, AlQueada...for the fuure and the Iranian madman will be another example that nutcases need taken out and not allowed to achive their goals.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Not agreed on either count. Your points would be true if the only choices were (1) keep "the sanctions" in place; (2) do nothing; or (3) invade. Since that is a false choice, I don't agree. We should have tried other options before invading. Maybe an invasion was inevitable, but since W pulled the trigger prematurely, his war might never be recognized as a moral war.

Who is this world you are referring to, bro?

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Given the readily evident and demonstrable failure of your philosophical approach to foreign policy, I'd prefer you and yours not work in the realm of the "royal we", when manufacturing destinies and such.

What other choice?

If it was inevitable (I don't believe that was the case, but just for the sake of argument I'll go with it) then why not do it at the hour of our choosing rather than at his convenience?

B

Oh well. We do what we can with what we've got.

B

How would I know? Are you saying that there were no other alternatives?

Bush people can say all they want that there were no other alternatives, but since none were tried, we will never know. Even if all other approaches failed, we would have been better off for trying. If we had exhausted all alternatives short of invading, which is the approach that Bush claimed to have followed, then we would have had less international opposition and maybe a greater level of international support. Even if other countries failed to get on board, we would at least know that we did the right thing, which is worth a lot.I don't think it was inevitable and I never said any such thing.