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koop · #31 03-16-2006, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MedMech

Sure they can get a poem but don't you think it is sad that a 7 year old is the author?

Do you really think she's the author? She isn't. Neither are the Arian twins on the other page. And Criss Cross probably didn't think of putting their clothes on backwards. It's all so disillusioning. I bet even the Jackson 5 were manipulated somehow.

DuckMuck · #32 03-16-2006, 05:03 AM

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."²

This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

#33 03-16-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by koop

It's all so disillusioning. I bet even the Jackson 5 were manipulated somehow.

no way, ABC was not racial.

DuckMuck · #34 03-16-2006, 05:11 AM

The contents of her speech are true...I have no problems with it...my only problem is with the negatively reflected in her words...my problem is with the fact that a seven-year-old child can only look into the past, but show no optimism into the future...

Please read her poem then compare it to a passage from Martin Luther King's speech...notice the contrast? Isn't it hope, optimism, and tolerance that we should be handing down to our children, whether they be black, white, yellow, or brown?

mikemover · #35 03-16-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by koop

So let me get this straight, slaves had it coming people who shared their skin color sold them into slavery but you get to skate because while the slave owners shared your skin color you didn't do it?

I never said anyone "had it coming". Don't put words in my mouth to try to bolster your case.

But yes, I get to "skate", because I did not do anything. Period.

Could I prosecute you for a crime committed by your great, great grandfather? No.

I am not responsible for the actions of those who lived before me.

Mike

pxland · #36 03-16-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by koop

help me out here

So what is inaccurate or racist about this

White Nationalism Put U In Bondage

White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirate and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
Drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel, tricks and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look in our streets
The mis-education of she and Hegro -- leaves you on your knee2grow
Black lands taken from your hands, by vampires with no remorse
They took the gold, the wisdom and all of the storytellers
They took the black women, with the black man weak
Made to watch as they changed the paradigm
Of our village
They killed the blind, they killed the lazy, they went
So far as to kill the unborn baby
Yeah White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirates and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
They drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel laden feet, throw in the tricks alcohol and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look at our streets.

or this

I pledge allegiance to my Black People.

I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible.

I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation.

. . . I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred.

I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters . . .

These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People.

striped away from the white guy editorial comment it seems perfectly reasonable to me

Christ, white folk enslaved blacks, made them pick cotton, raped the women, sold the kids.

You don't think white folk have a little karmic payback coming? If the worst that comes back is a poem that's a pretty good freaking deal.

I agree 100% and for the sake of not wasting your time by saying everything twice I'll let Koop hold up my end too.

Botnst · #37 03-16-2006, 08:48 AM

Oh mercy, the burdensome angst of white liberals! Flagellate me, please! Mea culpa, mea culpa!

Bot

sfloriII · #38 03-16-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by H2O2

Those darned black people, when will they learn not to rock the boat?

I'm kinda surprised that it seems that I'm the only one here that saw this statement as tongue in cheek.

Does anyone here really think ZEITGEIST is racist?

#39 03-16-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemover

A Nation of Islam activist teaches his 7 year-old daughter to play the "race card". Talk about getting a head start on hate!

Disgusting.

Read on.....

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One of the nation's fastest-rising poetry prodigies is a 7-year-old New York girl whose poisonous demagogic advocacy of black separatism makes Al Sharpton look like Mister Rogers.

Autum Ashante' of Mount Vernon, N.Y., has performed at HBO's Def Poetry Jam, The Cotton Club in L.A., The Apollo Theater in Harlem, the African Street Festival, Caroline's on Broadway, the Russell Simmons Phat Farm Fashion Show, Steve Harvey's "Big Time," a prestigious Grammy Foundation event, and at universities and other venues across the country. She recites her verses not only in English, but also in fluent Swahili and Arabic (she attended the Islamic Darul Arkam School in Mount Vernon).

Autum has appeared at a tribute to black nationalist Marcus Garvey, America-bashing 9/11 conspiracy-monger Amiri Baraka's annual family cookout and the extremist New Black Panther Party's Million Youth March. The city of New York honored her with a proclamation for inspiring "her peers, as well as adults, while also demonstrating the power of a father's love, the importance of education and the limitless boundaries of the human mind." New York City councilwoman Yvette Clark called her "one of the most precious young talents that this world has ever known."

Most recently, as New York Post education reporter David Andreatta reported this weekend, she was invited to perform at public middle and high schools in Peekskill, N.Y., for Black History Month.

Here, in full, is what precious little Autum -- groomed by her single father, Batin Ashante, a Nation of Islam poet/activist -- spewed:

White Nationalism Put U In Bondage

White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirate and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
Drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel, tricks and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look in our streets
The mis-education of she and Hegro -- leaves you on your knee2grow
Black lands taken from your hands, by vampires with no remorse
They took the gold, the wisdom and all of the storytellers
They took the black women, with the black man weak
Made to watch as they changed the paradigm
Of our village
They killed the blind, they killed the lazy, they went
So far as to kill the unborn baby
Yeah White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirates and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
They drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel laden feet, throw in the tricks alcohol and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look at our streets.

Autum's performance also included commanding white students to remain seated as she led black students in a recitation of the "Black Child's Pledge," by Black Panther Shirley Williams, which reads in part:

I pledge allegiance to my Black People.

I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible.

I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation.

. . . I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred.

I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters . . .

These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People.

Complaints from shocked students and parents led to a tape-recorded apology sent to all parents apologizing for the performance. Autum's father condemned white district officials as "racist crackers." Autum defended her poem by explaining to the Westchester Journal News that white people are "devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa."

And make note of this: The official who invited Autum to speak, Melvin Bolden, is a public school music teacher, Peekskill councilman and producer of her first spoken word album.

Who is surprised? If you set aside a separate holiday for Black History Month in the public schools, if you set aside separate graduation ceremonies, college dorms, academic departments, recruiting programs, and government contracts and subcontracts by race, you send a message that hard-core racial separatism is not only acceptable -- but desired.

Autum Ashante' is the natural offspring of militant multiculturalism and government-sanctioned identity politics. We reap what we sow.

_____________

As I said... disgusting.

Mike

NATION OF ISLAM ARE NOT MUSLIMS, NO WONDER MALCOLM X LEFT THEM AFTER GOING TO SAUDI ARABIA.

Botnst · #40 03-16-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sfloriII

I'm kinda surprised that it seems that I'm the only one here that saw this statement as tongue in cheek.

Does anyone here really think ZEITGEIST is racist?

Nah, but H2O2's acidic tongue has pretensions of being a free radical.

#41 03-16-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sfloriII

I'm kinda surprised that it seems that I'm the only one here that saw this statement as tongue in cheek.

Does anyone here really think ZEITGEIST is racist?

Apparently he is not fond of white people.

Azimyth · #42 03-16-2006, 09:19 AM

I believe there are being raised among us civil warriors. That is what is wrong with the lyrics; The attitude they create. It is one of retribution leveled on the shoulders of those who are personally innocent. The same is true for the Gaede twins. These are representatives of a greater festering infection found subcutaneously.

We may all be dead and buried when it happens, but it will happen if this sort of thing persists. Divided, we fall.

boneheaddoctor · #43 03-16-2006, 09:25 AM

THey should apply the same laws against those fools that they do towards the Aryan brotherhood and the KKKK.

A hate crime is a hate crime irregardless of what color their skin may be.

mikemover · #44 03-16-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Azimyth

I believe there are being raised among us civil warriors. That is what is wrong with the lyrics; The attitude they create. It is one of retribution leveled on the shoulders of those who are personally innocent. The same is true for the Gaede twins. These are representatives of a greater festering infection found subcutaneously.

We may all be dead and buried when it happens, but it will happen if this sort of thing persists. Divided, we fall.

Exactly.

Such things are intended to cause division. The animosity in the words is VERY obvious, even if the racism is not obvious to some. Such things are NEVER good for race relations, no matter which race they are coming from.

Mike

crash9 · #45 03-16-2006, 11:20 AM

I saw essentially the same type of story about two sisters that were singing too the “White Supremest” groups, and when you see pictures of Klan meetings they'll always be pictures of little kids all dressed up in the garb.
It's almost natural though don't you think? I mean, bigots and haters of every stripe tend to be weak minded bullies, and picking on the kids to listen to their drivel is just what you'd expect. It is surprising that there isn't more of this that comes from the Black or Native American communities rather than the Whites. We've got our own little paramilitary nut around here. Glenn Spencer and the “American Border Patrol”. Their “operations” in my little area is going to get somebody shot. Feelings about this kook are getting very hostile – news to follow.