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Old 03-16-2006, 03:36 PM
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more hot air?

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20060316/D8GCQVJ8A.html

the "new" national security strategy is just a bunch of hot air.. do you guys really think that the axis of evil are actually trembling in their shoes?.. or are they laughing? i don't see a possibility to attack any of them any time soon.. so, is it more hot air?

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"Effective multinational efforts are essential to solve these problems. Yet history has shown that only when we do our part will others do theirs. America must continue to lead."
so when are our strategies going to concentrate on all the internal problems that we have? that's how you show the way.. pointing a gun or dropping bombs just doesn't seem to work.

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Old 03-16-2006, 08:41 PM
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glad to see you're all good with it. allah help us all.
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:56 PM
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I just sit here amazed at the ongoing litany of threats to Iran that are constantly put forth lately by the administration. It's almost like a bunch of sandbox children. Don't these geniuses have any clue that a veiled threat serves no purpose than to really antagonize an already unstable group of people.

...........sheer stupidity.
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Old 03-16-2006, 10:35 PM
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I just sit here amazed at the ongoing litany of threats to Iran that are constantly put forth lately by the administration. It's almost like a bunch of sandbox children. Don't these geniuses have any clue that a veiled threat serves no purpose than to really antagonize an already unstable group of people.

...........sheer stupidity.
I think "GW Bush" is seriously considering starting a new war with a another preemptive strike. Not that I agree with him, or want to see it happen, but I do think something has to be done to stop Iran from developing "the Bomb". I just can't imagine why a country with the world's 2nd largest oil reserves(correct me if I'm wrong) would be so bent on aquireing a "peacefull" nuclear energy program.

Negotiating with Iran is just about hopeless, besides do you think the current Iranian leadership has any credibilty? Kinda like dealing with the Taliban in my opinion.

I really don't have any positive thoughts on what to do here. Nothing?...Hmm
Predmptive Attack?...Hmm. Try to build a coalition of countries to take action?....Hmm....what kind of action?
Words?....doubtfull. Sanctions?....probably would backfire. WAR.....might work, then what?

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Old 03-16-2006, 10:38 PM
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I really don't have any positive thoughts on what to do here. Nothing...Hmm
Attack...Hum. Try to build a coalition of countries to take action....Hmm, what kind of action would work? Words....doubtfull. Sanctions....probably would backfire. WAR.....might work, then what?
Walk softly......negotiate quietly.......use your allies in the region........use your allies around the globe........and.......as a last possible resort.......use a BF stick.

.......whoops......sorry.......forgot.......we don't have any allies around the globe anymore........George alienated everybody but the Brits.......guess we'll have to do it ourselves.......yet again.......but........no problem........we've got plenty of money........don't we?
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Old 03-16-2006, 10:46 PM
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Exactly my thoughts....... We could always finance with our great grand childrens futures, if they have one.

Update.....The Senate today adopted a $2.8 trillion budget blueprint that anticipates deficits greater than $350 billion for both this year and next... Make that great great grandchildren.

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Old 03-16-2006, 11:06 PM
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I got it.... maybe rekindle the war between Iraq and Iran, let them decimate each other, then move in and take the oil. 3 problems solved, cost $0.00 Where is the CIA when you need them?
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I got it.... maybe rekindle the war between Iraq and Iran, let them decimate each other, then move in and take the oil. 3 problems solved, cost $0.00 Where is the CIA when you need them?
Porter Goss.......you're fired.......we've appointed 450 slc guy to the job.......thanks for your devoted support..........have a nice retirement.
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Old 03-17-2006, 01:29 AM
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I think "GW Bush" is seriously considering starting a new war with a another preemptive strike. Not that I agree with him, or want to see it happen, but I do think something has to be done to stop Iran from developing "the Bomb". I just can't imagine why a country with the world's 2nd largest oil reserves(correct me if I'm wrong) would be so bent on aquireing a "peacefull" nuclear energy program.

Negotiating with Iran is just about hopeless, besides do you think the current Iranian leadership has any credibilty? Kinda like dealing with the Taliban in my opinion.

I really don't have any positive thoughts on what to do here. Nothing?...Hmm
Predmptive Attack?...Hmm. Try to build a coalition of countries to take action?....Hmm....what kind of action?
Words?....doubtfull. Sanctions?....probably would backfire. WAR.....might work, then what?
what makes us so special that we can have the bomb but no one else? we've been using WMDs there in this conflict as well as back in 92... i don't find that responsible at all.

we sit on pretty large oil and coal reserves ourselves.. we don't use nucular energy.. what the heck do we need those things for?

what about if russia or china decides that they have had enough of the yanks' bs and need to preemptively take care of the rogue cowboys?

shrub may be itching for another fight but there is no way in hell we could really swing it.. we can't really afford to either.
these empty threats are even worse then letting them be. these threats are worrisome, i'm sure... it will make them build up that much faster.. i can't believe that most americans are swallowing all this bogy man bs by the bucket
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Old 03-17-2006, 09:54 AM
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Didn't GW say "Bring it on"?

What happened to all your patriotism?

What future?

What national debt?

What deficit?

What axis of evil?

What allies?

Come on, let's get it over with. We have a BOY KING!!!! Long live the king, fock the common people.

Where is Boner when you need him?
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Old 03-17-2006, 09:57 AM
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And by the way, the sooner we get into another war, the sooner we finish ourselves off.

So China and India can take over. There you go. I offered my solution.
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.. i can't believe that most americans are swallowing all this bogy man bs by the bucket
......sure you can.

......The average person is a moron.
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Old 03-17-2006, 10:05 AM
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With the average democrat and the ACLU trying to defend the rights of the terrorists every day what do you expect. THey have their allies ...why would they worry.
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Old 03-17-2006, 10:22 AM
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what makes us so special that we can have the bomb but no one else? we've been using WMDs there in this conflict as well as back in 92... i don't find that responsible at all.

shrub may be itching for another fight but there is no way in hell we could really swing it.. we can't really afford to either.
Special maybe not, restrained as it pertains to our nuclear capabilty, yes. The world doesn't need a rogue Islamic nation to aquire a nuclear arsenal. Do you really think Iran's president was making Idle threats to wipe Israel off the face off the map? Definetly not.

As for "Shrub", I agree with you. He's an impulsive and dangerous man that seems obsessed with forcefully spreading "Democracy" to the worlds nations not civillized enough to embrace it. It just don't work in certain cultures.

The Russians and Chinese, they will concede to almost anything that undermines the US position, to enhance their own nationalistic goals. Perhaps not a bad thing, but it doesn't help to address the situations that require a united world voice, like nuclear proliferation.

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Old 03-17-2006, 10:34 AM
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......sure you can.

......The average person is a moron.
Maybe not morons, just too used to a comfortable and free lifestyle. Not enough concern or insight as where that will take us in future.

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