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deanyel 04-06-2006 12:06 AM

Bill Gates? Bill Gates hasn't done anything right since he showed up for that first meeting with IBM.

azimuth 04-06-2006 01:38 AM

http://right-magazine.com/images/whi...y/jc-watts.jpg

peragro 04-06-2006 01:46 AM

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I agree

Austin85 04-06-2006 01:53 AM

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A few choices of mine are:

1) Bob Costas
2) Bob Dylan
3) Bill Bradley ( Great jump shot!)
4) Dick Cheney....NOT!!!! heh-heh
5) ...see below....

Botnst 04-06-2006 08:39 AM

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Bill Gates? Bill Gates hasn't done anything right since he showed up for that first meeting with IBM.

What was it Steve Jobs said of Gates back in the 80's or 90's? Something like he'd be more creative if he'd dropped acid or lived on an ashram for a few years.

Worth noting that while Gates cried all of the way to the bank, Apple has bumped along the periphery of computers ever since.

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cmac2012 04-07-2006 04:20 AM

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I agree

Is that JC Watts? You agree?!? Have you heard him speak? :eek:

cmac2012 04-07-2006 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst
What was it Steve Jobs said of Gates back in the 80's or 90's? Something like he'd be more creative if he'd dropped acid or lived on an ashram for a few years.

Worth noting that while Gates cried all of the way to the bank, Apple has bumped along the periphery of computers ever since.

True, but some of Jobs creations are a lot more interesting -- Pixar, the I-pod -- well he didn't exactly create them himself, but he obviously had a hand in it.

OTOH, I like Gates for a number of things. I get the impression his work with 3rd world health is sound and I agree with him that that will be the best way to get population growth under control.

Lebenz 04-07-2006 11:34 AM

It is not possible to have a great president. The parties conspire to elect their own straw man. The system conspires to elect the candidate that sucks in the flavor du jour. So time and again that’s what we get. We should abolish the office and replace it with a 3 person committee, each from a different party. That way we would stop thugary by party affiliation and maybe even start to address the problems that face the country instead of enduring one sleaze ball idiot in office after another, who always and only has a sincere agenda to disregard the needs of the public in favor of the demands of his favorite sugar daddies.

Until then all we get is a different face but nothing else ever changes, except when its for the worst.

azimuth 04-07-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
Is that JC Watts? You agree?!? Have you heard him speak? :eek:


I've heard him speak. He seemed sincere. To what did you object?

aklim 04-07-2006 12:48 PM

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That way we would stop thugary by party affiliation and maybe even start to address the problems that face the country instead of enduring one sleaze ball idiot in office after another, who always and only has a sincere agenda to disregard the needs of the public in favor of the demands of his favorite sugar daddies.

Sincere agenda? yeah, right. They only sincere agenda they have is the one they will not say. It is the one to help themselves and if you get benifitted, so be it.

aklim 04-07-2006 12:53 PM

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I've heard him speak. He seemed sincere. To what did you object?

Take a neutral party to observe and everyone will seem just about as sincere as the other. How is that a test of anything other than he has mastered the art of public speaking? In fact, AFAIK, Adolf Hitler seemed sincere to most of the people in pre WWII Germany. What does that say? From a translation of his speech a long time ago, he seemed a better candidate than any of the ones we have had. Once again, what does that say? BTW, he learnt the art of showmanship from some stage performer. We all know the wonders he did with the Jews but yet, there were reports of some of the Jews even being entranced by his "magic".

Why does everyone bother how much the person speaks or how well he speaks? Maybe a better, not perfect, better thing to do is look at their record and see how they voted and how it benifited the country and not just a particular area? No, that would be too simple. Never mind. Personally, I would rather have someone who could do what they said they would do and couldn't utter a word on stage than a masterpiece showman who couldn't do squat.

peragro 04-07-2006 02:23 PM

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Is that JC Watts? You agree?!? Have you heard him speak? :eek:

Yes, I've heard him speak, but only on television and briefly. Something about the gleam in his eye and the way he carried himself just screamed "Integrity!" and "Intelligence!" to me. He may not be the most articulate guy around but I've got a gut feeling about him (from TV) that hasn't steered me wrong in all of my previous jobs and now. I don't know why you can't see that, it's apparently obvious.

aklim 04-07-2006 03:14 PM

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Yes, I've heard him speak, but only on television and briefly. Something about the gleam in his eye and the way he carried himself just screamed "Integrity!" and "Intelligence!" to me. He may not be the most articulate guy around but I've got a gut feeling about him (from TV) that hasn't steered me wrong in all of my previous jobs and now. I don't know why you can't see that, it's apparently obvious.

OK. Fine. However, what is his record like? Does he do what he says and no more and no less? Does he barter favors with other people? That is important because if he does, all it means is that he will get support on this program but will have to sell his soul and support another program that will hurt others but benifit another legislator. I mean, all this gleam in the eye crap is meaningless if he is buying and selling favors. That is why we are in this mess. Senator A gets support from Senators B, C, and D for his program. Fine, his district benifits at someone else's exepnse. Next time, it is his turn in the barrel.

cmac2012 04-07-2006 03:35 PM

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I've heard him speak. He seemed sincere. To what did you object?

Most of his opinions strike me as "off the shelf" Republican products. I'll have to review some of his statements to get a better handle on it but I wasn't too impressed. But I'm sure he's sincere about it. A sincere 40 Watt bulb is still a 40 watt bulb.

cmac2012 04-07-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by peragro
Yes, I've heard him speak, but only on television and briefly. Something about the gleam in his eye and the way he carried himself just screamed "Integrity!" and "Intelligence!" to me. He may not be the most articulate guy around but I've got a gut feeling about him (from TV) that hasn't steered me wrong in all of my previous jobs and now. I don't know why you can't see that, it's apparently obvious.

Oh, yur a clever leetle lahd.

OK, I never said body language was all I go by, just that it can offer clues. For example, I didn't trust Tom DeLay for a minute. He's a paint by the numbers Christian -- doesn't begin to get it, but all sorts of people believe he said the right words in the right order. C'mon people, the guy's got sleaze-monkey written all over him. He first entered politics because he was pissed that anyone (gubmint, driven by the people) would try to limit what kind of poison he could distribute into people's homes. (He was an exterminator if anyone reading this was unaware of that) DeLay's just one example, perhaps the most obvious.

I've seen Watts a few times and I wasn't impressed. Guy didn't strike me like he could think on his feet, and this was based on what he said. The gleem in his smile is a bit too metalic for my comfort. (hey got to throw you a bone here and there)


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