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Old 05-06-2006, 09:03 PM
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Long overdue... the return of DDT????!!!....

FINALLY, the myths and misinformation that led to the banning of DDT are being questioned.... and we might once again have an effective weapon against mosquitoes and mosquito-borne diseases!

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194332,00.html

Better late than never.

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Old 05-06-2006, 10:44 PM
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It's been such a silent spring...
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Old 05-07-2006, 10:45 AM
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Well who cares if they spray it in africa--life expectancy near 50 y.o., so not much chance of cancer lowering that, is there?

The most effective mosquito control is dieself fuel......
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Old 05-07-2006, 11:21 AM
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It's been such a silent spring...
Yes, I know...

...And it just so happens that I found this article about it on the Fox News site... so it MUST be nothing more than right-wing propagnada bull$h!t, right?....

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Old 05-07-2006, 11:50 AM
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What exactly is "indoor spraying"?

Let them spray it overtheir if they want. We have enough problems without DDT.
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Old 05-07-2006, 03:19 PM
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DDT wasn’t responsible for the decline in bald eagle populations, didn’t cause bird egg shell-thinning and didn’t cause cancer in humans, the judge determined.
Another innocent blamed for the obvious effects of second-hand smoke.
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Old 05-07-2006, 04:33 PM
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Satanic dust poison promoted by Bush's press medium, FoxNews!
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:36 PM
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"who cares if they spray it in africa?"

i care. you should too.
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:40 PM
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The most effective mosquito control is dieself fuel......
yay now i can have that smell i love all the time..
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:43 PM
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I totally agree

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Old 05-07-2006, 09:22 PM
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DDT is a member of a class of acetylcholinesterase inhibitors called chlorinated hydrocarbons. It was developed shortly before or during WWII and found immediate use in controlling the mosquito population, vectors to numerous blood-borne tropical diseases. It has very low toxicity to humans and other vertebrates. Use of DDT resulted in a dramatic lowering of noncombat-related casualties in tropical areas.

One of the major causes of noncombat deaths in time of war, throughout history, was typhus. Use of DDT dust by Allied armed forces in the clothing, on the person, and often in the dwellings of civilians was forced at gunpoint under martial law in Europe. WWII had the lowest civilian mortality due to disease of any modern war, in no small measure to the use of DDT.

DDT was used in the coastal areas of the USA following WWII to control mosquitoes. The use of DDT virtually eradicated malaria and yellow fever from the USA, diseases which since colonial times had claimed many, many thousands of lives.

DDT was then turned to crops. It was cheap and abundant and in the USA, was used for damn near every pest known to man.

Unfortunately, DDT (and many other chlorinated hydrocarbons that were developed subsequent to DDT) were over-used and misused, due to ignorance. Few people knew enough to be concerned and even those who knew of the dangers were also cognizant of the tremendous benefits that the chlorinated hydrocarbons had afforded mankind. Unfortunately, chlorinated hydrocarbons are very persistent. They accumulate readily in the fatty tissues of all animals. So sublethal doses in (say) insects accumulate in insect fat stores. Chlorinated hydrocarbons also persist for a long time in soil under certain conditions that lower the oxygen concentration.

Predators of insects (stop and think a moment about the number of species that prey on insects, including other insects) consume the contaminated fats. Animals that consume large quantities of insects (bats, many birds, fish, reptiles, etc) accumulate the fats of insects that consumed the chlorinated hydrocarbons. This increases the concentration of hydrocarbons in the organisms up the food chain.

We now understand the risks and benefits of DDT and many other species of chemicals. By conducting basic science on a large number of organisms around the world, we understand far, far better than we ever have before, what the risks and benefits of pesticide use will be.

Of all the chemicals developed since DDT, it is surprising that DDT is more benign that most subsequent chemicals. DDT was the first so it got all of the attention.

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Old 05-07-2006, 09:53 PM
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Good article Dr. Bot:

Chemists in the Lib party have been on the DDT bandwagon for many years, blowing away "Silent Spring".

Not to dismiss this thread, but look through the archives of "Reason" and you will find some good sheat.

Hey, that ain't no article there, Ford GT Stud Hombre. I made it up myself.
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:58 PM
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so botnst

sorry but i am a little slow.

do you think we should not have banned ddt or not?

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Old 05-07-2006, 10:11 PM
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It's been such a silent spring...
It's been such a repetitive, uninformative post.

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