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AustinsCE · #1 06-17-2006, 03:45 PM

So, I've been checking some places out, real peaceful out of the way places where I can be left alone. It seems real nice, I havent been there, and of course I dont plan to just up and move I would take a trip first. But who here as done this sort of thing, maybe a different country, besides the US? Is it hard to integrate? I'd have to learn a new language, I'm sure, which terrifies me... I've actually read the best job there would be teching English? How hard can that be.

Botnst · #2 06-17-2006, 03:57 PM

I'd visit Canada and learn the other language, first.

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BENZ-LGB · #3 06-17-2006, 05:14 PM

I've heard that Romanians frown upon butt-faced avatars.

Other than that I've heard that Romania is a beautiful country and their language, being a Romance-based language, might not be as hard to learn as the other Eastern European languages.

kramlavud · #4 06-17-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinsCE

So, I've been checking some places out, real peaceful out of the way places where I can be left alone. It seems real nice, I havent been there, and of course I dont plan to just up and move I would take a trip first. But who here as done this sort of thing, maybe a different country, besides the US? Is it hard to integrate? I'd have to learn a new language, I'm sure, which terrifies me... I've actually read the best job there would be teching English? How hard can that be.

Consider Vermont or Montana. No language problem; jobs may not be plentiful but you don't need a permit to work; and you can drive home if you don't like it.
regards,
Mark

Botnst · #5 06-17-2006, 08:39 PM

Is Rumania an IQ magnet?

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The Future of the American Workforce in the Global Creative Economy

by Richard Florida
Lead Essay
June 4th, 2006
In March of 2003, I met Peter Jackson, Academy award-winning director of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in his hometown of Wellington, New Zealand. Jackson did something unlikely in Wellington, a city of roughly 400,000: He built one of the most advanced filmmaking complexes in the world—a “global talent magnet,” he called it.

There, he could attract the best cinematographers, sound technicians, computer graphics artists, model builders, and editors from around the globe. As we walked past a wall map with pins showing the studio workers’ native countries, the head of digital animation joked that the organization looked more like the U.N. than a film studio. Jackson told me his key lure was to offer exciting, challenging work with a secure future in a city with abundant natural beauty, affordable housing, and an outstanding quality of life for people of nearly every income bracket.

Jackson's accomplishment in tiny Wellington hasn't factored into any of the recent debates over business competitiveness, jobs or economic growth—but it should.

American economic experts and policy-makers are rightly preoccupied with the emergence of behemoths like India and China, which offer huge markets, capable workforces, and cost advantages. Unfortunately, they overlook a subtler but even more profound shift in the nature of global competition.

In the past two and a half decades, this shift has taken us from the older industrial model to a new economic paradigm, where knowledge, innovation, and creativity are key. At the cutting edge of this shift is the creative sector of the economy: science and technology, art and design, culture and entertainment, and the knowledge-based professions.

The U.S. is at the forefront of this global creative economy. Over the next decade, it’s projected to add 10 million more creative sector jobs, according to the newest numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. At the present rate of increase, creative jobs alone will soon eclipse the total number of jobs in all of manufacturing. Already, more than 40 million Americans work in the creative sector, which has grown by 20 million jobs since the 1980s. It accounts for more than $2 trillion USD—or nearly half—of all wages and salaries paid in the U.S.

Such remarkable job growth goes far beyond technology and engineering. While the U.S. economy will add 950,000 computer jobs and another 195,000 in engineering, the biggest gains by far will be in health care and education, which will add more than 3.5 million. Jobs for college professors alone are projected to increase by more than half a million. Arts, music, culture, and entertainment will contribute some 400,000 new jobs. That’s twice as many as engineering.

The rise of this global creative economy changes the rules of international competition in four crucial ways.

First, it makes talent the fundamental factor of production. Economic advantage no longer depends on natural resources, raw materials, trade of goods and services, giant factories, or even growing consumer markets. The real source of value creation, and therefore of international competitiveness, is creative talent. Put simply, the places that can produce and mobilize their own creative workers, and attract creative talent from outside, win.

Attracting such talent, from inventor-entrepreneurs David Sarnoff and Andy Grove, to scientists Albert Einstein and Enrico Fermi, was the key to America’s edge in science and technology throughout the 20th century. Today, this global talent pool continues to help drive U.S. growth, with cutting-edge companies from Google and Yahoo to E-bay and Sun Microsystems all founded or co-founded by foreign-born Americans.

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The U.S. should not be worried about losing out on the low-cost, low-skilled end of the global labor market; it should be worried about other countries slowly chipping away at its ability to grow, attract, and retain top creative talent. Any attempt at immigration reform has to make America more friendly, and certainly not any less friendly, to this crucial source of talent and economic advantage

Second, the new playing field makes regions the fundamental economic and social organizing unit of the world economy. True, technology enables the diffusion and decentralization of economic activity, leading to what Tom Freidman likes to call the “flattening” of the world economy. But the tremendous productivity and creativity gains that spring from high density give shape to a powerful counterforce: geographic clustering and concentration.

More at: http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/06/04/richard-florida/the-future-of-the-american-workforce-in-the-global-creative-economy/

Larry Delor · #6 06-17-2006, 09:25 PM

Isn't Romania the country that gave us Yogurt? (if it is, you should find plenty of culture over there)

Skippy · #7 06-17-2006, 09:45 PM

If all you want is a peaceful place where you will be left alone, there are plenty of those in the western U.S., especially Nevada. The language is English, although the rural areas have something of a dialect. In the out of the way places, mines are the main employers, with ranches along the rivers and in other places where there is water. It's also a very pretty state as long as you like mountains and sagebrush.

AustinsCE · #8 06-17-2006, 11:03 PM

Well, thanks for the input all. I actually did consider Montana, but its a little boring, not to mention the risk of redneckery. No offense to rednecks, just dont want to see anymore for as log as I live

And I hate the western US. i like seasons, all 4. Permits and redtape, doesnt bother me. I want to be somewhere thats fresh? something like that, not stale from years of BS and stupidity. For example a common quote amongst my peers "I just finished college but I dont feel like I learned anything"

Oh and is there someone that actually encourages buttfaced avatars?

cmac2012 · #9 06-18-2006, 01:32 AM

IME, starting from scratch somewhere new can be a mixed bag. Some interesting new experiences but not having roots can put you at a disadvantage for some time.

OTOH, you get a little experience at teaching English and there are all sorts of places you can go live and work.

A friend of mine did that in Japan. He said if you work for one of the companies, your income will never rise too far above subsistance. Once he got some chops down, he went independent and marketed himself directly to execs for small group classes and doubled his income.

Jim B. · #10 06-18-2006, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinsCE

So, I've been checking some places out, real peaceful out of the way places where I can be left alone. It seems real nice, I havent been there, and of course I dont plan to just up and move I would take a trip first. But who here as done this sort of thing, maybe a different country, besides the US? Is it hard to integrate? I'd have to learn a new language, I'm sure, which terrifies me... I've actually read the best job there would be teching English? How hard can that be.

G R E A T idea to try a vacation there first. Got your passports, visas and shots all ready? Plus the appropriate clothes, and hidden wallet pouches, you are good to go!!

You have the internet now to help you plan and ask questions.

Lonely Planet THORNTREE features a forum you can ask any questions you like about what things are like in Romania - and anyplace else, right at the moment. Highly recommend that!!

ALSO, we have right here at Mercedesshop, "EDIFORIANUS" ) or Ediflorianus I don't know which, he is a forum contributor and W123 300 D owner, a young guy who lives in Romania, near Cluj (not the bigger cities of Timisoara or Bucharest) who knows, maybe a friendly email to him or a "Private message" could get the ball rolling for you if you'd like to visit Romania.
If I went there I would LOVE to visit the capitol, Bucharest and Dracula's castle too.

You know, I went with my (then) wife to Scandanavia back in 2001, and was active at the time in the www.mbcoupes.com forum, for the 1991 560 SEC, and corresponded via email with folks in Norway and Denmark who owned SEC coupes, this resulted with invitations from them to meet them when I was in their countries, and their injvitation was accepted,and it made an ordinary vacation *real* special, we went to their homes, got wonderful guided tours from them of their cities, and home cooked meals, it was ABSOLUTELY wonderful..

And, I was able to return the favor likewise when one of them came to San Francisco on business from Norway.

It is a wonderful world over in Europe, don't miss an opportunity to visit, and it is even BETTER when you have friends there to meet!!

AustinsCE · #11 06-18-2006, 12:30 PM

cmac-That English teaching deal sounds pretty good. I never would of that of that, thanks. Especially if it didnt take all my time and I could still have some other job.

Jim- I have not gotten anything together yet, I am going to finish school, and looking at going maybe in 3-6 months time. I will check out the thorntree forum, and contact the man you mentioned. Draculas castle was actually what first sparked the idea in my head. Everyone else talks about the eiffel tower or mount rushmore and stuff like that, i never cared too much for those things. Romania just seems more interesting to me. Thats really cool that you people from across the world, I think I will try that sort of thing, check out some forums and what not see who I can find. Thanks for sharing your experience.

Jim B. · #12 06-18-2006, 01:18 PM

Great!

General information, to start

www.ici.ro

www.visit-transylvania.us

www.toursromania.com

www.castlesonthenet.com

www.transylvaniatours.com

Keep us posted on how it's going

Jim B

even helicopter rides over Dracula's castle - sounds great!

Austin85 · #13 06-18-2006, 04:35 PM

Isn't that where the women grow mustches from age of 19...????

d-zel · #14 06-18-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinsCE

So, I've been checking some places out, real peaceful out of the way places where I can be left alone. It seems real nice, I havent been there, and of course I dont plan to just up and move I would take a trip first. But who here as done this sort of thing, maybe a different country, besides the US? Is it hard to integrate? I'd have to learn a new language, I'm sure, which terrifies me... I've actually read the best job there would be teching English? How hard can that be.

chech this out... http://www.stari.ro/2006/05/21/romania-ursus I am romanian and I am proud of it, ... sometimes. Click the link and hit play. Enjoy the clip. Joe

peragro · #15 06-19-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinsCE

Well, thanks for the input all. I actually did consider Montana, but its a little boring, not to mention the risk of redneckery. No offense to rednecks, just dont want to see anymore for as log as I live

And I hate the western US. i like seasons, all 4. Permits and redtape, doesnt bother me. I want to be somewhere thats fresh? something like that, not stale from years of BS and stupidity. For example a common quote amongst my peers "I just finished college but I dont feel like I learned anything"

Oh and is there someone that actually encourages buttfaced avatars?

Ain't no where you gonna go and not have rednecks.

Growing up in KY, I am familiar with the breed. Btw, there is a difference between a good ole boy and a redneck. Most people, however, simply call everyone that seems like a hick a redneck. This allows those of us who can put on an accent to get away with all kinds of stuff when dealing with our more "sophisticated" neighbors to the north and west. It's all in the perception.

Living for a while in Helsinki, Finland I can honestly say I ran across several of them. Same for USSR and pretty much everywhere else I've ever visited - they just don't always speak english.