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Lebenz · #31 07-19-2006, 11:15 AM

imo giving is a core element in what is commonly called family values. However, most optional values are aesthetic. An infant can't provide for them self. He or she must be given nutrition or will die. Giving an infant food is a value that is not optional, if sustaining his or her life is a goal.

Maroon 300D · #32 07-19-2006, 12:17 PM

Ever since I decided to read this thread yesterday I've found myself thinking about it more and more.

Kerry, I love your comment about giving as beauty and selfishness as ugliness. It rings true.

Kuan, I wouldn't be quick to judge people based on their comments here. Actions speak much louder than words.

One thing I keep thinking about is that we tend to think our gifts are worth more than they are. They may not have the impact we imagine they will. For that reason I think it's wise to give only when it is the act of giving, and not the intended result, that will make you happy with it.

Dee8go · #33 07-19-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maroon 300D

Ever since I decided to read this thread yesterday I've found myself thinking about it more and more.
One thing I keep thinking about is that we tend to think our gifts are worth more than they are. They may not have the impact we imagine they will. For that reason I think it's wise to give only when it is the act of giving, and not the intended result, that will make you happy with it.

Giving isn't much different than for-giving in that regard. It usually does the giver more good than the recipient. Don't give anything with strings attached. That's not really giving.

aklim · #34 07-19-2006, 02:42 PM

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imo giving is a core element in what is commonly called family values. However, most optional values are aesthetic. An infant can't provide for them self. He or she must be given nutrition or will die. Giving an infant food is a value that is not optional, if sustaining his or her life is a goal.

Barring an accident where both parents are killed, An infant needs to be provided for by its parents. If they cannot do that, they should not be having kids or have kids.

raymr · #35 07-19-2006, 03:31 PM

My grandpa who lived in Germany died many years ago, but he used to go out on walks and sometimes bring home bums and homeless people for lunch and a chat, or maybe some schnapps. My grandmother used to yell at him something fierce whenever he did that, but it didn't stop him. Likewise he was generous to everyone he knew with whatever he had, and they didn't really have very much.

I often wish I could be more like him. Whenever we talk about 'Opa', there are always smiles and a funny story or two. Did he purposely engineer his favors so people will remember him fondly? I doubt it, he was just a good guy.

raymr · #36 07-19-2006, 03:32 PM

double post

John Doe · #37 07-19-2006, 03:34 PM

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Why? Why is giving part of every financial plan? Thoughts?

Go back several years and read your 'locks of love' thread and you tell us

Hatterasguy · #38 07-19-2006, 03:44 PM

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Yes. However that aid is not free. NILIF. We do it so it buys us something in the future.

Of course, in regard to states giving to other states. But what about us giving to states that have little power in world affairs. We gave $2B to Haiti, most of which was stolen btw. But still what role could that little dirt poor island play thats worth $2B?

aklim · #39 07-19-2006, 06:39 PM

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Of course, in regard to states giving to other states. But what about us giving to states that have little power in world affairs. We gave $2B to Haiti, most of which was stolen btw. But still what role could that little dirt poor island play thats worth $2B?

We shouldn't give to those countries. Don't know why we do. Probably for another $2B we could have owned that country outright

Hatterasguy · #40 07-19-2006, 07:35 PM

Divide $2B by the pop of Haiti, you will be sick. That money went into someones bank account.

Giving to countries like that is for suckers unless you watch where the money is going. Which we don't.

aklim · #41 07-19-2006, 07:50 PM

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Divide $2B by the pop of Haiti, you will be sick. That money went into someones bank account.

Giving to countries like that is for suckers unless you watch where the money is going. Which we don't.

I don't care if it goes to 2 people or 200000 people. Fact of the matter is that it isn't part of our concern

Botnst · #42 07-20-2006, 09:30 PM

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Why? Why is giving part of every financial plan? Thoughts?

For me it is because I have seen the value of what I have done when combined with the giving of others. I gain great satisfaction from that. Something my sister started last Christmas that I found really intriguing is giving a donation to a farm charity that gives 3rd world farmers a beehive or a cow or a chicken to raise. The charity (whose name escapes me) has rules that the beneficiary has to follow. The overhead is low and the value of the dollars are wonderfully magnified.

I get no personal satisfaction from paying taxes.

Mr.Kenny · #43 07-21-2006, 10:19 AM

What is one of the fundamental things we learned in kindergarten?
'Sharing';... no one wants to play with a selfish person.

Fast forward a few years.......Do you like to do business or 'play' with a selfish adult?
I think it is important for the heart, mind & character of a person to be an unselfish giver. It helps us not be a miserly selfish slave to money or stuff.

In other words, 'we need to give' for our own edification & mental/spiritual health.

(I'm not talking about Taxes; which are required by law and the Govmn't TAKES from you.)

"For the LOVE of money is a root of all kinds of evil." 1 Timothy 6:10

aklim · #44 07-21-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kenny

What is one of the fundamental things we learned in kindergarten?
'Sharing';... no one wants to play with a selfish person.

Fast forward a few years.......Do you like to do business or 'play' with a selfish adult?
I think it is important for the heart, mind & character of a person to be an unselfish giver. It helps us not be a miserly selfish slave to money or stuff.

In other words, 'we need to give' for our own edification & mental/spiritual health.

(I'm not talking about Taxes; which are required by law and the Govmn't TAKES from you.)

"For the LOVE of money is a root of all kinds of evil." 1 Timothy 6:10

We are all selfish. We do this to get that. Nobody gives something for nothing. Either you get something back or you get a warm feeling in your tummy or whatever. You are paid. Perhaps in a different coin but you are still paid. What you are hoping for is Utopia. Not in this life.

Kuan · #45 07-21-2006, 12:54 PM

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We are all selfish. We do this to get that. Nobody gives something for nothing. Either you get something back or you get a warm feeling in your tummy or whatever. You are paid. Perhaps in a different coin but you are still paid. What you are hoping for is Utopia. Not in this life.

That's just so contradictory.

1) Everyone is selfish
2) We give to get something
3) We know (1) to be true

Therefore we know that giving gets us nothing