I know this forum contains some of the finest war strategists on the face of this planet- Your in chage- How would you fight the war in Isreal? You have the American military at your disposal. Then when your done how would you finish the mess in Iraq?

Switzerland has interesting strategies.

Same issues to deal with too?

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Yes.

The Swiss have stood as the shining example of fence sitters, don't take sides and benefit from all parties in a conflict equally. They have also traditionally benefitted from a fortress like isolation, less important in today's society.

I think that certain island nations rich in natural resources such as Australia, could have the best strategy by paying little mind to the rest of the world and focusing on their own advancement...unfortunately with this benefit at hand, they still choose to get involved elswhere rapidly making emenies and for very little homeland gain...

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You can to a point. However, there will come a time where your affairs will encroach onto mine either directly or indirectly. Look at a neighbourhood. How you keep your yard is your business. However, if your place is trashed, it will affect mine. You have bugs and they will come over to my yard.

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Israel's war?

American forces stay the f**k out of that pit of vipers.

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Not exactly fence-sitters. they made big bucks off the Nazis. Hey, maybe we could adopt that model where we hide looted art and money for despots and dictators!

Two ways. One must look at the problem as a whole.

I would either:
1. Nuke the entire area and then suck the oil out.

2. For a victory one must attack the entire problem. For example I'd attack Iran, Syria, and let Isreal finish off its problem with Lebenon. But capturing such countries would be easy, its holding them thats the hard part. Any insrugant problems would have to be delt with in an extremly brutal manner. I would also replace both governemts with dictators that are brutal and know how to tote our line. Saddam kept the peace, he is an example of what i'd install, just this time it would be someone whoe knows who put him there.

I couldn't care less about that hot hell hole of a sand box. Once the oil dries up the world will forget about them. If those people want freedom, well then they can fight for it like we did. From what I have been seeing they don't want it so they get option 2 a brutal dictator.

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Option 1 is a lot easier.

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Well, if we nuke it, isn't that going to ruin the oil?

Well when you are stuck between a rock and a hard place you act in ways that are not always appealing to others, but then again, who cares, you are still acting in your own best interest.

During WWII, the Swiss didn't stay out becuase they were nice to the Nazi's, the Nazi's knew that the Swiss had extensive tunnel and defensive systems in the Alps that would have made it more costly for the Nazi's to have taken Switzerland than all the losses suffered in Russia, wasn't worth the cost to Hitler, so why not bank with them? Many Europen Jews also banked with the Swiss, and their accounts well maintained until after the war. All of the Allied nations also dealt with the Swiss throughout the war. The point being is the Swiss didn't care about what anyone else cared or thought, they did what benefited them the most in their situation, and as such they did welll for themselves...this is no different than many other countries national interest approach.

And the stolen art claim thing is a farse another can of worms, everybody stole and benefitted from the spoils of wars, the Soviets and the US took more of the stolen art (spoils of war) than the Swiss ever held, but I don't see people crying at that, so it's quite selective, everyone steals and has stollen, just ask Dr. Awass trying to recover centuries of stolen Egyptian treasure throughout the world, the looted Mayan, Aztec, Greek, Roman, art.

How do you define spoils of war vs. stealing? How do you segment the two, if what you gain from an act of war is stealing, then all countries have stolen, was Sherman's march through the south a criminal rampage, was the buring of DC in 1812 and the taking of our art an act of war?

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Shouldn't its under ground. We have lots of vintage nuclear weapons we could use up on them as well. Kill two birds with one stone so to speak.

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By winning.

OK I can buy that, winning is also legally supported in common law, possession is 9/10's of legal ownership. So when one side wins, the losers need to accept that what is taken from them is OK, so why complain? Next time there is a war, the previous losers should strive to win and take back all of their stuff and them some...the cycle repeats itself.

All I'm saying is that to blame others for acting in their own best interest and not aligning with your own aspirations (which is done in your own best interest) is fruitless, you are saying I hate your for being just like me...and with both sides feeling the same way no supprise they can't come to terms

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