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Old 08-30-2006, 10:28 PM
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No thanks...I think I値l walk.

We were just going through some older crash investigation reports (aircraft) here and came across this one.

Not really a topic for OD, but I thought you might get a kick out of it.

1965. PanAm 707-321
Just after the aircraft took off from San Francisco International Airport the No. 4 engine disintegrated tearing off 25 feet of the right wing.
(WOW) An emergency landing was safely made at Travis Air Force Base. (SUPER WOW) A plane was dispatched to pick up the passengers at Travis Air Force Base. While attempting to land, and in plain view of the passengers, the nose gear collapsed.

As much as I love to fly - I think I壇 be walking home that day.

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Old 08-30-2006, 11:20 PM
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Makes you wonder if Daniel Bernoulli thought it would work when one wing was 25' shorter!

I'd like to meet that pilot. Bet he could get me over my landing issues!

Me: "I'm not sure about this"
Him: "Shut up ya asshat, or I'm chopping part of the wing off and showing you how to do it the hard way."
Me: "Roger"

That's amazing...

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Old 08-30-2006, 11:30 PM
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The pilot was probably good and relaxed from his 3 martini lunch, no panic there. A lot of the safety standards we take for granted now didn't even exist then.
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:14 AM
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Super wow indeed! That guy must have been one of the greatest pilots of all time! I wouldn't have thought that possible.

Any info. about number of injuries on that crash landing? I'm guessing it wasn't smooth, and that it probably caused the nose gear collapse.
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:19 AM
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I cannot fathom how the aircraft can maintain roll attitude with the loss of lift on the right wing if 25 feet are missing.

The airplane must have far more roll capability than anything currently built.

Hell, the DC-10 couldn't maintain roll attitude with one set of slats lowered...............with both wings completely intact.
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:25 PM
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Third time's a charm. I think I would walk to buy a lottery ticket. They say when your time comes nothing is going to save you, but you can cut ahead in line. Getting on a plane that day would have been cutting in line.

If you look at some of the planes that make it home with combat damage it puts a different perspective on it. They were often flown home by bleeding pilots also.

That plane has a lot of wing on it and the rudder will roll it too. If he got it down in one piece after losing that much of his horizontal stabilizer I would really be amazed.
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:26 PM
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I cannot fathom how the aircraft can maintain roll attitude with the loss of lift on the right wing if 25 feet are missing...
From this website, http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/ch13-6.htm

"...Inboard and outboard ailerons in combination with spoilers are used for lateral control. When deployed symmetrically, the spoilers help decelerate the aircraft on the landing rollout and aid in rapid in-flight descents."
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:35 PM
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There's a lot to be learned from the NTSB crash reports...for example, I learned to NEVER fly in a small GA aircraft.

From the same website (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/ch13-6.htm)...

....Richard T. Whitcomb of the NASA Langley Research Center....

Modern aeronautics owes a lot to Whitcomb. What a genius!
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:46 PM
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There's a lot to be learned from the NTSB crash reports...for example, I learned to NEVER fly in a small GA aircraft.

From the same website (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/ch13-6.htm)...

....Richard T. Whitcomb of the NASA Langley Research Center....

Modern aeronautics owes a lot to Whitcomb. What a genius!
At the risk of sounding ignorant...what is "GA?" A company? Or general aviation?

If your talking about small aircraft in general I'd say it depends on who's flying and maintaining it.
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:59 PM
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At the risk of sounding ignorant...what is "GA?" A company? Or general aviation?
GA = general aviation

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If your talking about small aircraft in general I'd say it depends on who's flying and maintaining it.
Right, and IMHO, most of them are just waiting to make a hole in the ground. However, if WVOtoGo was to show up at the farm in his Bell, I would go for a ride.

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