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kmaysob 09-23-2006 04:16 AM

mother!##$@#$ pc
 
god i wish i had the money for a mac. my pc has been acting funny and tonight i ran a virus scan. its got a trojan that i am having a hell of a time getting rid of. i hate pcs

kamil 09-23-2006 04:44 AM

Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you over a simple CLEANUP program that my cousin sent me a while back. I had some type of trojan one time that nothing would remove (Norton, McAfee etc) and I ran this program which took care of it. Actually you might be able to get it from their site at http://cleanup.stevengould.org/.

It is not some type of adware/spyware crap but it will clean up anything. Well, thus far my total cleanup says it got rid of 1.5 gig worth of stuff in the 25 times I ran it. It's a really simple program.

Good luck.

kamil 09-23-2006 04:47 AM

by the way, I have the 4.0.0.0 Version.

I ran this on my dad's comp and it runs so much quicker, especially when surfing the net.

kmaysob 09-23-2006 07:17 PM

thanks kamil. i think i got it for now.:rolleyes: hopfully come income tax time i can afford an apple.

kamil 09-23-2006 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmaysob (Post 1285074)
thanks kamil. i think i got it for now.:rolleyes: hopfully come income tax time i can afford an apple.

everybody is switching to MACs all of the sudden. My friend just bought one about two weeks ago...I'll stick to my regular PC. I know them in and out and I have never really had too many issues.

Brian Carlton 09-23-2006 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamil (Post 1284642)
Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you over a simple CLEANUP program that my cousin sent me a while back. I had some type of trojan one time that nothing would remove (Norton, McAfee etc) and I ran this program which took care of it. Actually you might be able to get it from their site at http://cleanup.stevengould.org/.

It is not some type of adware/spyware crap but it will clean up anything. Well, thus far my total cleanup says it got rid of 1.5 gig worth of stuff in the 25 times I ran it. It's a really simple program.

Good luck.

I took your advice and downloaded that program. It cleaned up nearly 1GB on this machine and it does run faster online.

Thanks for the info.

kamil 09-23-2006 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1285095)
I took your advice and downloaded that program. It cleaned up nearly 1GB on this machine and it does run faster online.

Thanks for the info.

Nice. I run the program once a month or so. The first time I ran it, it made such a huge difference....it was like night and day when surfing the net.

Brian Carlton 09-23-2006 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamil (Post 1285106)
Nice. I run the program once a month or so. The first time I ran it, it made such a huge difference....it was like night and day when surfing the net.

Firefox has been hanging on a regular basis........at least 15 times per day. Usually takes five or six clicks to break it loose.

I'm hoping that the program will cure this.

No hang in the last hour.............:scholar:

TheDon 09-23-2006 08:10 PM

im going to download it as soon as iTunes is finished downloading all of the tv shows i bought 5 hours ago... i wish i was on gigabit ethernet...

kamil 09-23-2006 08:14 PM

make sure you guys go to OPTIONS prior to running it and set it to your specifications. Here is mine....in the GENERAL TAB on the left I have it set to STANDARD CLEANUP....that is all.

kamil 09-23-2006 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1285109)
Firefox has been hanging on a regular basis........at least 15 times per day. Usually takes five or six clicks to break it loose.

I'm hoping that the program will cure this.

No hang in the last hour.............:scholar:

Sometimes I get that same issue as well with FireFox. Maybe it's a bug in the browser itself.

waybomb 09-23-2006 10:13 PM

Wow!
I lost my HD two weeks ago. So, I bought 2 300gig SATA drives and configured RAID1. Last weekend was spent just loading the OS and other programs. I spent some time on the net this am.

This program found over 11,000 files to delete in the short time this pc has been configured! And the PC works fine without all those files!

I am downloading this on my laptop shortly and on my work pc on Monday. I bet my laptop shows an immense improvement in speed.

Thanks for the link!!!!!

kamil 09-23-2006 10:29 PM

Just be careful and read all the WARNINGS. I'm sure there will be a bad apple in here where it deletes important files. :)

It works great for me though.

TheDon 09-24-2006 12:36 PM

on the demo it said it could free up 4.5 gigs but when i did the actual cleanup id cleaned out 1.5 gigs.. aww man
Quote:

Originally Posted by waybomb (Post 1285214)
Wow!
I lost my HD two weeks ago. So, I bought 2 300gig SATA drives and configured RAID1.


im planning on getting two 120 gig external harddrives. those could be configured for RAID correct? i have no idea how to do it but i know it is very good to have.

kamil 09-24-2006 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1285600)
on the demo it said it could free up 4.5 gigs but when i did the actual cleanup id cleaned out 1.5 gigs.. aww man

Does your computer run any faster? I usually DEFRAGMENT the drive as well after all the files have been deleted.

Matt L 09-24-2006 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1285600)
im planning on getting two 120 gig external harddrives. those could be configured for RAID correct? i have no idea how to do it but i know it is very good to have.

Configuring two external hard drives on the same USB interface for RAID is pointless. I could understand three and RAID-5, for the fault tolerance, or two external drives on two different USB interfaces for higher speed.

Botnst 09-24-2006 02:17 PM

BEGIN COMPUTER HAIKU:

...

Your file was big.
It might have been useful.
But now it is gone.

The Website you seek
Cannot be located, but
Countless others exist.

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent, and reboot.
Order shall return.

Abort, retry, fail?
Close all that you have.
You ask far too much.

Windows NT crashed.
I am Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.

First snow, then silence.
This thousand dollar screen dies
So beautifully.

With searching comes loss
And the presence of absence:
“My Novel” not found.

The Tao that is seen
Is not the true Tao.
Fresh toner is like that.

Stay the patient course
Of little worth is your ire
The network is down.

A crash reduces
your expensive computer
to a simple stone.

Three things are certain:
Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.

You step in the stream,
But the water has moved on.
This page is not here.

Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
But we never will.

Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retype'd.

Error, "Your Work" not found.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
Guess which one is angry.

TheDon 09-24-2006 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt L (Post 1285616)
Configuring two external hard drives on the same USB interface for RAID is pointless. I could understand three and RAID-5, for the fault tolerance, or two external drives on two different USB interfaces for higher speed.

should i just run a 300 gig external drive and pray it never fails.

Matt L 09-24-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1285688)
should i just run a 300 gig external drive and pray it never fails.

It depends on your goal. If you wanted to use two 150G disks for a 300G volume (raid 0 or 0/1), you will lose everything if either drive fails. If you use two 150G drives for a single 150G volume (mirroring), you will lose nothing if either drive fails, but you'll need to rebuild upon replacing the bad disk.

If you want reliability, use three 150G disks for a 300G volume using raid-5 (without a hot spare). Then you have no loss if you lose a single disk, as long as you replace it and rebuild before you lose a second. Using a hot spare (four 150G disks for a 300G volume), the rebuild will happen automatically.

TheDon 09-24-2006 03:51 PM

thanks, reason being is that i want to have a reliable library for my music collection, soon as i get a RAID setup ill hit full throttle , i probably have around 80-100 gigs of music i havent put into my library because im afraid of a failure

diametricalbenz 09-24-2006 03:53 PM

If you're going to go with the RAID-5 layout the 3Ware controllers are nice. They are expensive but if you're going to go the length to buy 3 300GB drives then why not spend a few hundred extra for a decent RAID controller.

Is the data on your machine that important?

Matt L 09-24-2006 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diametricalbenz (Post 1285716)
If you're going to go with the RAID-5 layout the 3Ware controllers are nice. They are expensive but if you're going to go the length to buy 3 300GB drives then why not spend a few hundred extra for a decent RAID controller.

Is the data on your machine that important?

That's a very good point. But he wants external, which will limit his choices.

I'm curious about the shelf-life of recordable media. I've heard that rewritable DVD's are better than write-once, but would like to see long-term results (which are obviousely unavailable).

TheDon 09-24-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diametricalbenz (Post 1285716)

Is the data on your machine that important?

just music, i only use my laptop for school work and collecting music.. the 80-100 gigs are scatterd all over the place, friends, my house, my uncles record collection(which is going digital) if ye want to chastise me for borrowing cd's and uploading their is a thread.. but its nothing.. a member at ilounge.com has a collection of music,movies, tv shows in excess of 600 gigs and he is using a RAID array to keep it safe. id hate for my collection's harddrive to fail and have to go through adding and organizing everything.. 10 gigs was fun to organize and get album art before the software was aval on itunes to do it automaticly. also i like high bit rate which takes up some space

Mistress 09-24-2006 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmaysob (Post 1284639)
god i wish i had the money for a mac. my pc has been acting funny and tonight i ran a virus scan. its got a trojan that i am having a hell of a time getting rid of. i hate pcs

Sorry this happened to you, viruses are like cheap luggage, can't get rid of them...

Hatterasguy 09-24-2006 09:33 PM

Nice program Kamil, thanks.:cool:

Cleared 600mb worth of crap, computer is a bit quicker now online. I have Spybot and it does a pretty good job.

kamil 09-24-2006 09:55 PM

If anybody ever has problems with trojans/viruses then check out this forum...
I usually get my advice from the computer nerds on that board.

http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12

waybomb 09-24-2006 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diametricalbenz (Post 1285716)
If you're going to go with the RAID-5 layout the 3Ware controllers are nice. They are expensive but if you're going to go the length to buy 3 300GB drives then why not spend a few hundred extra for a decent RAID controller.

Is the data on your machine that important?

diametricalbenz
I had to replace a hard drive, so I replaced it with 2 300 gig, configured RAID1. Should I buy two more and go RAID5? Can I do that after I've configured RAID1, or do I have to wipe everything and start all over?

diametricalbenz 09-25-2006 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waybomb (Post 1286081)
diametricalbenz
I had to replace a hard drive, so I replaced it with 2 300 gig, configured RAID1. Should I buy two more and go RAID5? Can I do that after I've configured RAID1, or do I have to wipe everything and start all over?

hi waybomb, it depends on your hardware controller or software controller but usually you have to do a clean RAID configuration with most of the off the shelf hardware. What RAID controller are you using?

With a total of 4 drives you can go 3 + 1 parity in RAID 5 or if you want some speed and are really paranoid you can go RAID 10 with 2 (RAID 1) and 2 (RAID 0) but it would limit you at 600GB unformatted. The max performance would be the 900GB route with the 3+1 parity.

waybomb 09-25-2006 07:12 PM

diametricalbenz

I haven't a clue what controller I have, but it is on-board, and there are only two SATA connections. I suppose I would have to buy a plug in card of some sort.

What's your thoughts on RAID1? All I want is a back up. The speed is fine with RAID1. It's a 3.4ghz puter with a gig ram.

I also put in an older SCSI 2 fast/wide drive I had and an Adaptec SCSI controller. I moved all the files to the RAID, and formatted the SCSI drive with the Adaptec software. Now, when I boot up, it takes forever, but it does boot. If I unplug the power to the SCSI drive, the puter boots very fast. I'd like to use the SCSI drive to store junk I can loose. What am I doing wrong?

diametricalbenz 09-25-2006 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waybomb (Post 1286882)
diametricalbenz

I haven't a clue what controller I have, but it is on-board, and there are only two SATA connections. I suppose I would have to buy a plug in card of some sort.

What's your thoughts on RAID1? All I want is a back up. The speed is fine with RAID1. It's a 3.4ghz puter with a gig ram.

I also put in an older SCSI 2 fast/wide drive I had and an Adaptec SCSI controller. I moved all the files to the RAID, and formatted the SCSI drive with the Adaptec software. Now, when I boot up, it takes forever, but it does boot. If I unplug the power to the SCSI drive, the puter boots very fast. I'd like to use the SCSI drive to store junk I can loose. What am I doing wrong?

I presume you're using the Windows RAID via the XP Pro/Server? RAID 1 is fine in terms of providing fault tolerance for an entire drive. It protects against drive failure (heads/motor etc) but is still susceptible to corruption or infections and all that bad stuff.

The 3WARE controllers are good as aforementioned. http://www.3ware.com They build them in 4,8, 12, and even 16 :D drive configurations. I guess you're aiming at a 4 drive as the cost climbs at a geometric rate. It depends on your board and expansion slots. What kind of MB are you using? As I recall you get 800MBps of bus bandwidth through the PCI express if you happen to have that on your board. I built some servers awhile back with an open pocketbook and was running 4 Western Digital 36GB 10,000 RPM drives in a RAID 5 configuration on a 64 BIT PCI port I was able to get 80MB per second formatted disk transfers consistently by moving CD sized ISO files around for fun.

Promise controllers are decent. I personally use one in a 4 drive RAID 0 configuration but it's old and an ATA/66.

You're doing nothing wrong with the SCSI-II controller which is a 2940U? the extra SCSI BIOS takes more time to autodetect the SCSI devices so that slows your bootup time. That's just how it is.

waybomb 09-26-2006 09:37 PM

diametricalbenz
Am on the road, so I can't check out what motherboard it is, but it is an ASUS, has 3.4ghz Pentium. There are a bunch of available slots. I do not know what software is controlling the SATA, but it did come on the CD for the mother-board. If it helps to know, I get back home Friday night, and can repsond then. I do know that I had to move the jumper on both new SATA drives from a 300 rate(?) to a 150 rate(?). I don't know enough about PCs to know what these rates are; just that I had to change the jumpers in order to have the MB recognize them. The pc is about 1.5 years old now, so there are apparantly MBs out there with a faster rate than mine.

The Adaptec is a 2940u2w, or maybe 2940uw, I think. I also have an older CD burner on the SCSI buss. I also have a DVD burner on the MB buss.

On the SCSI drive - can I load XP on it, and then somehow chose between which drive system I want to use at boot-up? How would I do that? Would I have to change the MB bios and the SCSI bios to look for the SCSI drive first?

Lastly, my new RAID is recognized as drive "F", there is no recognized drive "C", so how do I change "F" to "C".

Where can I read up on this subject, and how to do it? I know just enough to be very dangerous..........

Matt L 09-26-2006 10:31 PM

Don't put the OS on a RAID. Put the OS itself on a single drive, which can then be easily rebuilt. Use the RAID for your user storage.

As far as I'm aware, if XP thinks it's running on drive F, you can't change that to drive C. It refuses to rename the OS drive. But having the OS on something other than drive C breaks all sorts of (broken) software.

diametricalbenz 09-27-2006 01:59 AM

waybomb, I would take MattL's advice and not put the system C files on the RAID array. That is something that just becomes a mess in a recovery situation and so a single drive is the best way to go. One of the bottlenecks with the 2940U/U2W SCSI since it is older is that the bus is designed to handle 40Mbits-160Mbits.

To answer your question about the SATA there is 150Mbit SATA and 300 Mbit SATA. I presume the controller on the board can take 300 but has to default to 150 to recognize the drives properly. There shouldn't be a problem there.

When you're back in town the configuration can be easily figured out once the ASUS MB model is known.

To change the boot order, go into the BIOS menu and you can change the order of the boot devices. It goes removable, CD, HDD, etc. You can expand the HDD list and move the boot drive up to the top of the list or select it somehow.

If the SCSI HDD is the only one it will boot first by default despite having a CDROM on the chain.

The C drive will always be the boot drive. You can reassign the letter drive of the RAID in the Disk Management section of the Computer Management console you can choose (d through z).

waybomb 09-27-2006 10:16 PM

Hmmm, I spent all weekend getting ti to work. All of XP is on the RAID. So I think I know how to load XP on the SCSI, but how do I get it off of the RAID without formatting and starting all over?

Now that you guys tell me this - it really does make sense. I should have asked first.

diametricalbenz 09-28-2006 12:06 AM

The western digital diagnostic 11.2 now has a drive copying utility. Try booting as normal and then run the copy utility from the C (RAID) to the SCSI and then change the boot order in the BIOS as aforementioned and see if it boots up. It should work and you'll have a clone of your RAID drive.

It's a little messy so it will take some work. You'll have to make sure the RAID partition fits onto the SCSI drive.

Vronsky 09-28-2006 11:19 AM

Super tool.
Cleans LOADS more than cleaning function in XP/Explorer.
Just got rid of 800Mb
:thumbsup:

Thanks K.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamil (Post 1284642)
Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you over a simple CLEANUP program that my cousin sent me a while back. I had some type of trojan one time that nothing would remove (Norton, McAfee etc) and I ran this program which took care of it. Actually you might be able to get it from their site at http://cleanup.stevengould.org/.

It is not some type of adware/spyware crap but it will clean up anything. Well, thus far my total cleanup says it got rid of 1.5 gig worth of stuff in the 25 times I ran it. It's a really simple program.

Good luck.


pwogaman 09-28-2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamil (Post 1284642)
Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you over a simple CLEANUP program that my cousin sent me a while back. I had some type of trojan one time that nothing would remove (Norton, McAfee etc) and I ran this program which took care of it. Actually you might be able to get it from their site at http://cleanup.stevengould.org/.

It is not some type of adware/spyware crap but it will clean up anything. Well, thus far my total cleanup says it got rid of 1.5 gig worth of stuff in the 25 times I ran it. It's a really simple program.

Good luck.

Many thanks for this tip! I just dumped 1.4 gb!

kamil 09-29-2006 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vronsky (Post 1289200)
Super tool.
Cleans LOADS more than cleaning function in XP/Explorer.
Just got rid of 800Mb
:thumbsup:

Thanks K.

Do you guys notice a speed increase when surfing the net?


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