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Old 10-23-2006, 11:45 PM
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People actually buy into this cult?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

As PT Barnum said, there is an idiot born every minute. Very wise words indeed.

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Old 10-24-2006, 12:13 AM
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On a par with virgin births and resurrections?????
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:23 AM
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List goes on, Werner Erhard, est and the Moonies, things get creepy

Remember Werner Erhard and "est", and the human potential movement?
Back in the late 70's and early 80's (in SF) I was badgered to "take the training", then he Werner decided to get into auto racing "Breakthrough Racing" by simply throwing money at the sport, but that didn't work though. Apparently a more benign version lives on called "The Forum" (see: www.skepdic.com for a little bit more info.)

Then of course there is the Rev. Sun Moon (visited by Jusus Christ himself in Korea in 1935) and his Unification Church and the mass weddings.
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:05 AM
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:31 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

As PT Barnum said, there is an idiot born every minute. Very wise words indeed.
Just ask John Travolta and Tom Cruise....
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Old 10-24-2006, 07:37 AM
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From the wikipedia page posted by Hatterasguy..

The first Church of Scientology was incorporated in Camden, New Jersey as a non-profit organization in 1953.


It was before my time, but on behalf of New Jersey, can I apologize?
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:24 AM
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The numbers refer to wikipaedia footnotes.

General celebrities
* Kirstie Alley [4][5], actress
* Anne Archer [4], actress (her son, Tom Davis, runs the Los Angeles "Celebrity Centre")
* Carl Anderson [6], singer
* Jennifer Aspen [2], actress
* James Barbour [7], Broadway actor
* Lynsey Bartilson [8], actress
* Beck [4][9], musician
* Catherine Bell [10], actress
* Karen Black, actress [3]
* Sonny Bono (deceased 1998) [11], musician and member of U.S. House from California (claimed Catholicism on campaign biographies)
* David Campbell [12], musician, composer, arranger
* Nancy Cartwright [11][9], voice over artist, most famous as the voice of Bart Simpson
* Kate Ceberano [13], actress and musician
* Erika Christensen [4], actress
* Chick Corea [4], musician
* Tom Cruise [4], actor (raised Catholic, according to Parade; attended a Franciscan seminary in Cincinnati and aspired to become a Catholic priest)
* Sky Dayton [14], founder and Chairman of the Board of EarthLink
* Doug Dohring [15], ex-owner of Neopets
* Jason Dohring [16], actor
* Plácido Domingo Jr. [4], opera singer
* Bodhi Elfman [5], actor
* Jenna Elfman [4], actress (Dharma and Greg), raised Catholic
* Doug E. Fresh [9], hip-hop musician
* Kenton Gray [6], car and motorcycle race driver
* Paul Haggis [17], director
* Isaac Hayes [4], musician, actor, and formerly voiceover artist ("Chef" from "South Park")
* Katie Holmes [18], actress (born and raised Catholic), introduced to Scientology by fiancé Tom Cruise
* Nicky Hopkins [19], musician (deceased 1994)
* Tyler Hynes [7], actor
* Mark Isham [20], musician
* Milton Katselas [4], acting teacher
* Chaka Khan [9], singer
* Jason Lee [1], actor ("My Name is Earl", "Mallrats") and professional skateboarder
* Geoffrey Lewis [1], actor
* Johnny Lewis,[1] actor
* Juliette Lewis [4], actress
* Christopher Masterson [1], actor
* Danny Masterson [1], actor
* Lisa McPherson (deceased 1995), died at Fort Harrison Hotel[21]
* Peter Medak [22], director
* Jim Meskimen [23], actor and improviser
* Sofia Milos[24][25], actress (CSI: Miami)
* Floyd Mutrux [26], writer, director and producer
* Haywood Nelson [27], actor
* Marisol Nichols [28], actress
* Judy Norton [29], actress and musician
* Eduardo Palomo (deceased 2003)[30], actor, and his wife Carina Ricco[31], actress and musician
* Don Pearson [32], 'Management by Statistics' consultant
* Michael Peña [33], actor
* David Pomeranz [34], singer/songwriter
* Laura Prepon [35][36]
* Lisa Marie Presley [1], singer, Michael Jackson's ex-wife, and daughter of Elvis
* Priscilla Presley [1], actress and wife of Elvis
* Kelly Preston [37], actress and John Travolta's wife, raised Catholic.
* Leah Remini [1], actress
* Ernie Reyes, Jr. [34], actor [8]
* Giovanni Ribisi [1], actor, raised Scientologist.
* Marissa Ribisi [38] , actress, wife of Beck Hansen, sister of Giovanni Ribisi, raised Scientologist.
* Ruddy Rodriguez, actress [9]
* Elena Rogero [6], singer
* Mimi Rogers [4], actress (believed to not be active in the church anymore, but still holds the beliefs)
* Pablo Santos, actor [10] (deceased 2006)
* Jeffrey Scott, screenwriter [11]
* Billy Sheehan [39], rock bassist
* Eric Sherman, film consultant [12]
* David Singer [40], chiropractor, 'Management by Statistics' consultant
* Reed Slatkin [41], criminal ponzi scheme perpetrator
* Michelle Stafford [42], actress
* Ethan Suplee [43], actor
* John Travolta [4], actor, raised Catholic.
* Greta Van Susteren [10], host of On the Record with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News Channel
* Persia White [44], actress
* Edgar Winter [45], musician
* Bryan Zwan [46], founder and CEO of Digital Lightwave
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Odd. All of the names that I recognize belong to creeps.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:36 AM
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I find it amazing that everytime you hear about Scientology you never hear that L Ron Hubbard was a Satanist along with Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons.

That is definitely one cult you do not want to get involved with.

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Old 10-24-2006, 09:59 AM
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I find it amazing that everytime you hear about Scientology you never hear that L Ron Hubbard was a Satanist along with Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons.

That is definitely one cult you do not want to get involved with.

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L Ron Hubbard was a science fiction writer who is reputed to have stood up in a convention of his peers ans made the comment that if one truly wanted to be rich, all one needed to do was to start their own religion. The following year, he founded the Church of Scientology according to the story I heard. I can't say for sure that it is true, but it sounds right.

Bot, that list is truly disheartening. On the other hand, celebrities seem to live in some sort of fantasy world far removed from the one the rest of us inhabit. For that reason I guess we should not be surprised.

In a past life I worked with many people seeking to escape from cults like the Moonies, EST, the Children of God, etc. etc. The Unification Church used the same techniques as the Chinese and N. Koreans did (ala Manchurian Candidate), brain-washing. They were typically food and sleep-deprived, and subjected to nearly constant "instruction."
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:54 AM
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Those people in Hollywood are on there own planet, nothing they do surprises me.

I just find it really interesting that people will buy into anything. Really we are like sheep in many respects.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:30 PM
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L Ron Hubbard was a science fiction writer who is reputed to have stood up in a convention of his peers ans made the comment that if one truly wanted to be rich, all one needed to do was to start their own religion. The following year, he founded the Church of Scientology according to the story I heard. I can't say for sure that it is true, but it sounds right.
I enjoyed reading his book "Battlefield Earth" but that's besides the point.

L Ron Hubbard was the protoge of Jack Parsons the "Anti-Christ Superstar". Who was a student/follower of Aleister Crowley, a known Satanist and often described as the most evil man alive.
L Ron Hubbards association with the occult is well documented. If you don't believe me then:
www.google.com

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one man's cult is another man's christianity

nothing different in kind from christianity, judaism, islam, etc- except that most of the time these are introduced by the brainwashing of parents and socially accepted institutions such as churches/mosques, rather than by charismatic individuals with mindless followers. The only difference is mass acceptance.
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On a par with virgin births and resurrections?????
Hey- I "heard" that.. I resurrect myself every Sunday morning after a good Saturday night. Let's not forget to add Marilyn Monroe to that list Bot submitted...

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