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There isn't a hope of the US being involved in Darfur, regardless of involvement in Iraq, at least under present day conditions. I agree with aklim that it is naive to think otherwise. The US barely engaged in Bosnia, and it was mostly from the safety of the air. The US didn't go near Rwanda. There once was a time that the US would have been involved. Your country, much as ours, mobilized and equipped a gigantic citizen army to fight the Nazi regime. But that sense of "doing it because it is the right thing to do" just isn't there any more. It is all about "what is in it for me?" now. |
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How about we stay on our continent, the Euro's stay on theirs, and Africa does the same. Let's start focusing on our own country instead of foreign lands. We have many problems in America that are not being addressed and continue to be ignored. We should learn a lesson from the Chinese, If it doesn't affect us, it's not our business.
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OK. So let me ask you and these "many" you speak of a simple question. Since we are probably too old and out of shape to serve in most capacities except to get in the way of the real fighting men and women. How much money would YOU be willing to put aside for that cause?
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That is 2 cents more than I would send. I guess if I am drunk and feeling good because I just got a fantastic BJ maybe I might go up to 1 penny
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That was my point. Many people talk of moral this, that or the other but when the rubber meets the road, well....... Morality is worthless without anything to back it up. So, if these "many" you speak of are only mouth, it is worthless.
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They? As in the government? If that is what you are saying, I agree that they are saying it. Govts say plenty, believe in few and do even fewer. Iraq is necessary because it is strategically important to us, plain and simple. However, that sounds selfish that we get involved because it is to our advantage so they wrap it up with all sorts of good sounding things. Bottom line is that if Iraq were transplanted to some other insignificant place, we would not even hear of it. Kinda like me raping some kid and say it is beneficial to them in the long run so I sleep better at night. NAMBLA does that every day. They tell you how a loving sexual relationship between a man and a boy is actually beneficial to the child. That way they will sleep soundly at night as opposed to them admitting that they are doing it because they want to get their rocks off on some kid and who cares what happens to the kid.
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Hmm being idealist sucks, back to my usual hard line.
Let em starve, if it bothers someone let them deal with it.
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Because of increased budgets: Keels were laid for new ships of high quality and contracts were let for new designs of weapons; Also, the largest war game maneuvers in US history were performed by: MacArthur, Stllwell, Marshall, Eisenhower, Patton, etc across several states and over several months. From those maneuvers a great appreciation for blitzkerig was gained and the overwhelming importance of logistical support was appreciated and addressed. The naval build-up allowed the uSA to lend/lease old classes of destroyers and other vessels to England and the USSR. In 1941 the draft was expanded. President Roosevelt and most of the Congressional leadership believed war was inevitable. Most of the population did not. So the nation was tricked into supporting "defensive" build-up. There is nothing defensive about an Iowa class battleship. Nothing defensive about fast attack aircraft carriers. Nothing defensive about amphibious forces and fleet development. They were all underway before 1941. This is why it took the USA less than 2 yrs to get into a totally offensive war posture following Pearl Harbor. B |
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Tell that to the Coast Guard and Merchant Marine. There was a hot shooting war on the Atlantic with the Germans in 1940-41.
If the Japanese never attacked Pearl Harbor it was only a matter of maybe 12 months before we became invloved. Something would have happend.
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Speaking Russian? I'd argue you'd be speaking German if things worked out a little different. Trying to qualify the reasons for the US mobilization, even if they *are* qualifiable, seems a little bit ungrateful to me. Regardless of what language you'd be speaking, the US and Canada, along with many other countries, spilled a fair bit of blood liberating your country back then. To quote the fictitious Col. Nathan Jessup, I'd just as soon have you say thank you and go about your business. |
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