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Old 11-01-2006, 07:42 AM
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John Kerry stepped in it big time....hahaha

The best part isa bunch of information will be published to prove ya alls age old stereotypes wrong.



Did Kerry Hand Republicans a November gift?
By JAKE TAPPER, MIKE CALLAHAN and AVERY MILLER

WASHINGTON, D.C., Oct. 31, 2006 For weeks, Republicans on the campaign trail have been looking for something anything to talk about other than the record of the Republican Congress and the way the Bush administration has conducted the war in Iraq.

Monday, they got their wish. While stumping for local Democrats in California, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., addressed students at Pasadena City College and made a comment about education and the war in Iraq that lent itself to much controversy.

* Related: Was Kerry 'Troop Bashing?'
* Related: White House Spokesman Slams Kerry Remark


"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq," he said.

It was a rhetorical gift for the embattled Republican Party, which is eager to run against Kerry again. The White House, in an unusual move, notified the media ahead of time that the president would address Kerry's comment in remarks at today's campaign rally in Georgia.
Election Fodder

The Kerry kerfuffle is a prototype for controversies of the new media age. "Thanks to the Internet, all life is on the record now," observed Jeff Jarvis, a journalism professor at the City University of New York. "Everything a politician says and does is public and the world can see in a second. that's life now."

After Kerry's remarks were mentioned on the Web sites of local newspapers, including the Whittier Daily News, the video popped up on YouTube and conservative blogs like Newsbusters.org, and then talk radio seized on them.

Though, as opposed to 2004, it didn't take Kerry weeks to respond to attacks against him. Shortly before noon Tuesday, Kerry, a Vietnam veteran, responded, insisting in a statement that he had not belittled the intelligence of soldiers serving in Iraq, but rather that of "the president who got us stuck there."

But it may have been too late. The train had left the station.

"I believe Sen. Kerry owes an apology to many thousands of Americans serving in Iraq, who answered their country's call," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., campaigning in Indiana.

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh said, "It tells us what John Kerry himself and the Democratic Party think about the troops and the U.S. military."

* Related: Was Kerry 'Troop Bashing?'
* Related: White House Spokesman Slams Kerry Remark


By the time Kerry got to a microphone in Seattle this afternoon to explain what he called a botched joke about the president, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Americans, had already heard about it and Republican candidates were talking about it.

"It disgusts me that a bunch of these Republican hacks who have never worn the uniform of our country are willing to lie about those who did," Kerry added.

What's unclear is if Kerry's comments will help rally Republican voters or help their party portray Democrats as against the troops to score victories next Tuesday. A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, "I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too."

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Old 11-01-2006, 07:48 AM
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Karl Rove is a genius!!!!
All I want to know is How he got Kerry to "misspeak".
Every now and then the libs get cocky and say what they really mean...and then have to issue "corrections". It is amusing to watch.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:49 AM
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Senator Kerry, why the long face?
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:05 AM
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Woooops!

It is the kind of casual comment lots of people might make in private conversation trying to make a point about getting educated to broaden your opportunities in live....but not something you should say if running for office.

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Old 11-01-2006, 08:06 AM
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Senator Kerry, why the long face?

Oh yeah, that really makes me want to vote Republican.

Did anyone see GWB's interview on Fox last night? Now that's who was Kerry was referring too. A President should be able to speak eloquently and with intelligence, not like a buffoon and an Idiot. How embarrassing that was as a reflection upon the American public.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:09 AM
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Don't you find it odd that the article in MM's post says that Kerry claims that he botched the joke but doesn't give the text of the joke Kerry says he intended to tell? What kind of half-a** reporting is that?

Kerry says that the joke was intended to slam W. Instead of, "...And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq..." Kerry says that the punchline was supposed to say, "...And if you don't, you get us stuck in Iraq..." It's a lame joke, but it does not disparage the troops.

Why didn't the article quote Kerry's full explanation? McCain, Limbaugh, and the rest of them are the biggest bunch of phonies. They are pretending to be outraged by what Kerry said because it's a rare chance for them to score points this fall.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:12 AM
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Woooops!

It is the kind of casual comment lots of people might make in private conversation trying to make a point about getting educated to broaden your opportunities in live....but not something you should say if running for office.

Tom W
This is exactly what I'm talking about. People read crap like the article posted by MM and think that Kerry must have been slamming the troops. That's the problem when the media stick by the script - Kerry's a Democrat and they're always against the troops. I wish reporters would start doing their jobs.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:15 AM
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The best part isa bunch of information will be published to prove ya alls age old stereotypes wrong....
What the heck does that mean?
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:37 AM
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Oh yeah, that really makes me want to vote Republican.

Did anyone see GWB's interview on Fox last night? Now that's who was Kerry was referring too. A President should be able to speak elequently and with intelligence, not like a baffoon and an Idiot. How embassasing that was as a reflection upon the American public.
In all honesty, I don't give a damn whether you vote Republican, Green, Commie, Olde Lang Syne, or even Democrat. Just don't vote Libertarian. Noooo, stay away from that party!

Somehow I just knew that Kerry's faux pas had to be Bush's fault. And of course, Bush can do nothing without Rove's planning and Cheney's approval. So this is the conspiracy rearing its ugly head again.

New slogan, "Kerry tried and Rove sighed."

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Old 11-01-2006, 08:49 AM
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...Somehow I just knew that Kerry's faux pas had to be Bush's fault...
Who said anything about Kerry's screw up being W's fault? That doesn't even make sense.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:27 AM
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Kerry supporters, if he really botched a joke, is he that much better as an eloquent speaker than Bush?

And, if it was truly a mistake. Why not apologize?

The man is a despicable, arrogant, SOB.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:28 AM
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Who said anything about Kerry's screw up being W's fault? That doesn't even make sense.

Lack of comprehension and an eagerness to attack beyond reason would account for that, a perfect example of the Bush intellectual mentality.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:36 AM
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Kerry supporters, if he really botched a joke, is he that much better as an eloquent speaker than Bush?
Botching a joke isn't all that serious, speaking like Bush is the joke. I kept wondering how Hannity could keep a straight face when interviewing GW. A truely amazing insight into GW's communication skill's, or lack theroff.

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The man is a despicable, arrogant, SOB.
A perfect description of GWB. Chevez was correct about one thing, BUSH is a "DONKEY".
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:39 AM
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Kerry supporters, if he really botched a joke, is he that much better as an eloquent speaker than Bush?
Who cares?
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And, if it was truly a mistake. Why not apologize?
That's the amazing part. Kerry is such a dumba** he can't bring himself to say, "Troops, sorry about that. I didn't mean to say it that way." On the other hand, his explanation is entirely plausible and the accusation that he meant to disparage the troops seems utterly implausible.
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The man is a despicable, arrogant, SOB.
I wouldn't go that far, but he is a knucklehead, no doubt about it.

The bigger story than Kerry's gaffe is the incredibly dishonest coverage of it: http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310019

http://mediamatters.org/items/200611010004

I understand that mediamatters.org is anti-Republican, but I don't see how anyone can read those two pages and not see the deep dishonesty in the GOP's attempts to portray Kerry as anti-soldier.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:49 AM
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Kerry was speaking about Bush, but what do expect from sound-bite people.

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