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Old 11-02-2006, 03:28 PM
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Terrorists: vote Dem (???)

from http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747

Consider the source (of course of course) but interesting fodder for discussion nevertheless. I'm not a WND reader, just saw the story linked from another site.

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Mideast terror leaders
to U.S.: Vote Democrat
Withdrawal from Iraq would embolden
jihadists to destroy Israel, America

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Posted: November 2, 2006
9:27 a.m. Eastern


By Aaron Klein
2006 WorldNetDaily.com



Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
JERUSALEM Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday's midterm congressional election in the U.S. including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

The terrorists told WorldNetDaily an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are "tired."

They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.

They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance "resistance" against Israel.

"Of course Americans should vote Democrat," Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, told WND.



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FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Mideast terror leaders
to U.S.: Vote Democrat
Withdrawal from Iraq would embolden
jihadists to destroy Israel, America

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Posted: November 2, 2006
9:27 a.m. Eastern


By Aaron Klein
2006 WorldNetDaily.com



Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
JERUSALEM Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday's midterm congressional election in the U.S. including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

The terrorists told WorldNetDaily an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are "tired."

They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.

They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance "resistance" against Israel.

"Of course Americans should vote Democrat," Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, told WND.

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"This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud," said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared "military wing" of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats' talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel "proud."

"As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk," he told WND. "Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal."

Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas' military wing in the Gaza Strip, said the policy of withdrawal "proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation."

"We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq," said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas' Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas' declared "resistance" department. "They did not succeed in stealing Iraq's oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw."

Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is "emboldened" by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

"[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq," boasted Abu Ayman.

The terror leaders spoke as the debate regarding the future of America's war in Iraq has perhaps become the central theme of midterm elections, with most Democrats urging a timetable for withdrawal and Republicans mostly advocating staying the course in Iraq.

President Bush has even said he would send more troops if Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, said they are needed to stabilize the region

The debate became especially poignant following remarks by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the 2004 presidential candidate who voted in support of the war in Iraq. Earlier this week he intimated American troops are uneducated, and it is the uneducated who "get stuck in Iraq."

Kerry, under intense pressure from fellow Democrats, now says his remarks were a "botched joke."

Terror leaders reject Nancy Pelosi's comments on Iraqi insurgency

Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

In a recent interview with CBS's "60 Minutes," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, "The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn't mean we stay there. They'll stay there as long as we're there."

Pelosi would become House speaker if the Democrats win the majority of seats in next week's elections.

WND read Pelosi's remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

Islamic Jihad's Saadi, laughing, stated, "There is no chance that the resistance will stop."

He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would "prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States."

Jihad Jaara said an American withdrawal would "mark the beginning of the collapse of this tyrant empire (America)."

"Therefore, a victory in Iraq would be a greater defeat for America than in Vietnam."

Jaara said vacating Iraq would also "reinforce Palestinian resistance organizations, especially from the moral point of view. But we also learn from these (insurgency) movements militarily. We look and learn from them."

Hamas' Abu Abdullah argued a withdrawal from Iraq would "convince those among the Palestinians who still have doubts in the efficiency of the resistance."

"The victory of the resistance in Iraq would prove once more that when the will and the faith are applied victory is not only a slogan. We saw that in Lebanon (during Israel's confrontation against Hezbollah there in July and August); we saw it in Gaza (after Israel withdrew from the territory last summer) and we will see it everywhere there is occupation," Abdullah said.

While the terror leaders each independently compelled American citizens to vote for Democratic candidates, not all believed the Democrats would actually carry out a withdrawal from Iraq.

Saadi stated, "Unfortunately I think those who are speaking about a withdrawal will not do so when they are in power and these promises will remain electoral slogans. It is not enough to withdraw from Iraq. They must withdraw from Afghanistan and from every Arab and Muslim land they occupy or have bases."

He called both Democrats and Republicans "agents of the Zionist lobby in the U.S."

Abu Abdullah commented once Democrats are in power "the question is whether such a courageous leadership can [withdraw]. I am afraid that even after the American people will elect those who promise to leave Iraq, the U.S. will not do so. I tell the American people vote for withdrawal. Abandon Israel if you want to save America. Now will this Happen? I do not believe it."

Still Jihad Jaara said the alternative is better than Bush's party.

"Bush is a sick person, an alcoholic person that has no control of what is going on around him. He calls to send more troops but will very soon get to the conviction that the violence and terror that his war machine is using in Iraq will never impose policies and political regimes in the Arab world."

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Old 11-02-2006, 07:47 PM
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ive got an idea... i think it would work


we withdraw on one condition, terrorists, you cant touch our land or people.. we will leave a nice big ammunition dump for you to play in... we will also give your enemies the same exact stuff.. just go at it we will put it on payper view give both sides a cut of the profits .. you get to spread your message and the other side gets to spread theirs.. while we just sit back and watch
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Old 11-02-2006, 08:00 PM
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ive got an idea... i think it would work


we withdraw on one condition, terrorists, you cant touch our land or people.. we will leave a nice big ammunition dump for you to play in... we will also give your enemies the same exact stuff.. just go at it we will put it on payper view give both sides a cut of the profits .. you get to spread your message and the other side gets to spread theirs.. while we just sit back and watch
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Old 11-02-2006, 08:10 PM
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Ted Turner would be proud of you. Politics be darned if I can make a buck.
you know you would pay to see a bunch of idiots blow themselves up in real time.. none of this watered down crap on cnn/fox
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you know you would pay to see a bunch of idiots blow themselves up in real time.. none of this watered down crap on cnn/fox
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:09 PM
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Look,we get out of there,we don't threaten them....let'em beat their wives and cut their clits,none of our business.

However,and here's the rub.

They will always need markets for their petroleum and we will always be in the forefront of buyers.

Forget about the so-called Islamic Jihad,just a result of economic disenfranchisement is all,put 'em in charge of oil distribution they'll be farting thru silk and nailing virgins{while still alive}
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:11 PM
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Unhappy reverse psychology tactic!!

Who the F*** cares how a terrorist leader wants US to vote!!!

So if I understand this they are using the media to try to scare US voters away from voting Democratic, and to "stay the course" and keep the same idiots in power that we've suffered with for the last 6 or 7 years.

They would probably love it if we could ever find another brainless village idiot to elect as president in '08 too.

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Look,we get out of there,we don't threaten them....let'em beat their wives and cut their clits,none of our business.

However,and here's the rub.

They will always need markets for their petroleum and we will always be in the forefront of buyers.

Forget about the so-called Islamic Jihad,just a result of economic disenfranchisement is all,put 'em in charge of oil distribution they'll be farting thru silk and nailing virgins{while still alive}
They also have this unfortunate thing about blowing-up buildings and flying airliners into them. If they'd focus on their own major cities I'd be okay with it.

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Look,we get out of there,we don't threaten them....let'em beat their wives and cut their clits,none of our business.

However,and here's the rub.

They will always need markets for their petroleum and we will always be in the forefront of buyers.

Forget about the so-called Islamic Jihad,just a result of economic disenfranchisement is all,put 'em in charge of oil distribution they'll be farting thru silk and nailing virgins{while still alive}
Step back and put down the Manhattan!!
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They also have this unfortunate thing about blowing-up buildings and flying airliners into them. If they'd focus on their own major cities I'd be okay with it.

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ECONOMIC DISENFRANCHISEMENT...Yeah,you may have a few Saudi trust fund babies who buy into this religious *****,dressing it up with the gossamer veils of Faith but the root cause is the same...

Everyone,in every society wants the same things out of life.The forms may be different but the desire is the same and if you can grasp an understanding of the elementals of life,well and good.

What's the result?kill them all so they will pose no threat to us?seems to me they've been doing a fair job killing us and those allied to us,God bless our soldiers.

Who has a coherent answer?certainly not Halliburton Inc.and Mr.Nucular,you don't like what's going on?show your colors on Election Day,which should be a national Holiday,Dammit!!

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They're dying violent deaths at a far higher rate than we are. In terms of two curves, their violent death rate is unsustainable, our is not. Yeah, I know there is more to life than lack of death. But lack of death is a great thing to have.

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They're dying violent deaths at a far higher rate than we are. In terms of two curves, their violent death rate is unsustainable, our is not. Yeah, I know there is more to life than lack of death. But lack of death is a great thing to have.

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They also have this unfortunate thing about blowing-up buildings and flying airliners into them. If they'd focus on their own major cities I'd be okay with it.
The Botnst refrain. We had troops in their holy land and were behaving like we were the rightful arbiters of their wealth.

Doesn't excuse them but it is a motive. What you think putting way more troops and bases in an adjoining Arab country was going to mollify them??
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They're dying violent deaths at a far higher rate than we are. In terms of two curves, their violent death rate is unsustainable, our is not. Yeah, I know there is more to life than lack of death. But lack of death is a great thing to have.
Population growth in Arab countries is far greater than ours, probably in total as well as percentage.

I don't buy your POV on this. Our costs per "enemy" killed have got to be way higher than their costs. We'll bankrupt ourselves way before we put a significant dent in their population.
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The Botnst refrain. We had troops in their holy land and were behaving like we were the rightful arbiters of their wealth.

Doesn't excuse them but it is a motive. What you think putting way more troops and bases in an adjoining Arab country was going to mollify them??
If motives were justification there would be no prisons.

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