Hey, Bot, isn't the saying among Chicago politicians, "Vote early and vote often?" Or is that Louisiana? or is it actually a universal maxim?

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I suppose it is highly irrational to assert that one side is more moral than the other.

Still (here it comes), the right has shown more aggression in the recent past. Rush Limbaugh has been far more aggressive in dissing, demonizing the other side, the dreaded liberals.

Tom DeLay was the first character to push for mid decade redistricting -- breaking new ground in aggressive partisanry.

Rove is scheming hard to implement a permanent Republican majority while his champion, the Dubble-meister is taking the benefits of "democracy" to the world at the point of a gun.

And Diebold's Republican head is breaking ground that Democrats or liberals did not first explore.

At its heart, right wing-ism is generally more concerned with the right to do whatever the hell you want in pursuit of profit whereas the dang lefties tend to lean towards finding an equitable balance. There are plenty of corrupt Dems however. I'm not that naive.

I'm not buying any excusing of power grabbing with the notion that the other side would do it if given the chance. The downward spiral of morality and ethics needs to be arrested.

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You could but it would not really be true, would it?

Like I said, today they are in power and they will do all they can to stay that way. Tomorrow, if the other side gets into power, being as immoral as they are, they would also try for the same brass ring. That is why I am rooting for a Dem this time. We had 8 yrs of Clinton, 8 of Bush so 8 of a Dem would be good. That way, the current can swing the pendulum all the way to the other side and then the first side can swing it all the way back. Hopefully, their actions cancel each other out to some extent. Yes, it would be nice to have a bunch of moderates from both sides but that doesn't seem to be the case today.

If I believed that, I would say that it would be best to be left wing all the time. However, I don't believe that the left wing is always trying to make things equitable. In any case, life isn't fair. Assuming you equaled everybody today, in 100 years, we would be back at this same spot because some will try harder than others. I don't honestly believe that one party is bad while the other is as good as you say. I feel they are both bad and we vote for Mr LOTE. Lessor of Two Evils. Otherwise, Dems would be the only choice for a vote since all they want is to make a equitable balance. Do you really believe the left wing wants to do only that and make paradise on earth? Having achieved that they can sustain it too? I don't think so

And who would arrest this downward spiral? You? And what army? Another 100 senators and 435 House reps? OK, lets say you do. Think these 535 people won't be corrupted again? Can't help it. Such is life because it is run by human beings. Soon as they get in, they will be corrupted and we will start again at square 1. It is not an excuse. It is just a fact of life. I built my house one way and now the sun shines in and wakes me up before I want to because the bedroom window is facing East. That too is a fact of life.

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That is the conventional wisdom and I think Karl Rove and his ilk exploit it for all it is worth. They continue a strategy originally perfected by Ronald Reagan which was to say whatever advances your cause, regardless of the truth. If you get caught in fib or mistake, most people will never hear about it. Of the smaller percentage of voters who do learn of the mistake or fib, most will (a) not care, (b) assume it was an innocent mistake, or (c) assume that the Democrats are just as bad. That leaves a small percentage of people whose opinion is affected adversely and most of those people will never be convinced anyway. So, in the end, there is no price to pay for dishonesty. So long as everybody keeps with the mantra, "Both sides do it - one side is as bad as the other...", Rove, et al., have no cause for concern.

It's the genius of Karl Rove.

Either they will do it or they won't. How will you judge "jbad"? Can you honestly say the Dems DON'T do it? This is like 2 kids fighting in the back.

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I can honestly say that Dems do it to a lesser extent.

I can say it honestly because it's what I believe. I am absolutely biased against the Republicans and might be completely wrong on this issue.

Here's a left-winger who agrees with me (from http://talkingpointsmemo.com):No matter how things come out tomorrow, I'm glad that the Republicans have had to pull out all of their dirty tricks. Eventually, enough people will catch on to them and will restore something resembling sanity to this country.

It's hard to know why our country is more civilized than say, Iraq or Myanmar. Why do we have a greater degree of respect for individual rights and the rule of law?

I think it stems from a greater degree of average personal integrity and/or morallity. This stuff is impossible to quantify. Where and what does it derive from? And then look at Japan. You can leave your wallet on a counter at a dept. store and come back an hour or two later and it's still there. People have surreptitiously filmed a briefcase left on the street in Japan to see how long it takes for it to be taken. Days sometimes.

There are no armies enforcing this level of civility. It comes from within, from a greater capacity for shame than is found in most places. Somehow, this element needs to be encouraged.

Where does such a degree of respect and consideration for strangers come from?

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In one sentence or less do you think the outcome of the election tomorrow will amount to anything? Honestly do you think the dems will pull the guys out of Iraq, stop terrorism, stop genocide in Africa, stop the nukes, lower gas prices and legalize weed?

IMO it does not make a difference politicians are professional whores, there may be a few that want to do good but the rest are in it for personal gain, whatever that may be. On November 8th NEXT year the same old BS will be going on and we will be arguing about Hillary's anti war protest 30 years ago and McCains age.

Personally I am more interested in my state guv race because Michigan is going into the toilet faster than a crap at a Gumbo contest.

One sentence or less? That's a tough standard, especially for us mental midgets.

Here's my one-sentence argument in favor of a Democratic majority in the House - The Executive branch will no longer be free to operate without Congressional oversight.

I'm sorry, but I do not know whether I was supposed to capitalize the "b" in "branch."

My hat is off to anyone who can make his or her case in less than one sentence.

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I guess that's less than a sentence.

Still fits your criteria. That or "No it won't." if you want a sentence.

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Nah, it's too late. Very little can be done anymore to stop this countries downward spiral. We sold the store and gave away the inventory. Now all were left with is paying the interest on the bills.

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I think that's Chicago.

The maxim in Louisiana: a really close race brings out the voters in the cemeteries. For literally decades the Democrat Party prevent the roles from being purged. It wasn't until we had a viable 2-party system that voters had to ID themselves at the polls and prove residency. Many voting precincts' roles have not been purged in decades.

Now we have a new and fascinating phenomenon: People in coastal Parishes can vote on local issues even if they've lived out of state for the past year. We all know they would NEVER take advantage of that.

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